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{*PCTeam*} - Review of the KW PAM 438 "Tuttonero"

PolonusTM

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Why Polonus? Is it the bracelet? I love the leather strap and the ceramic watch combo, but also think that the black movement looks better, at least in pics.

Well, to me it is like "let's ride everything with black ceramic" vs "it is still Panerai watch on a nice strap". I agree about movement being nicer on 438 but this detail is not seen when worn. I have 441 for a week, 438 since yesterday and while keeping them both for sure - I probably will wear 441 more of the two. Can't explain but it is like 438 is more of Panerai fan art than Panerai's original design. ;) Sort of how creators of sci-fi movies of 80ties imagined clothes design of the future ;)

The best combo - buy 438 with additional asso strap :)
 

ALTL

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Thanks Polonus. Ended up buying the 441, but will probably try to get a ceramic bracelet. Now the war begins
 

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The use of the 7750, with the added function of the GMT got me worried of the reliable of this rep. With all the deco plates it's gone be hard if it ever needs a repair


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The use of the 7750, with the added function of the GMT got me worried of the reliable of this rep. With all the deco plates it's gone be hard if it ever needs a repair


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Decorative plates are mounted using screws. My watchsmith serviced several of these movements and installed decorations back without any visible problems.

GMT modification on 7750 is as per gen (as for 7750 gen GMT mod) - very stable and problem free.
 

ShiroTenshi

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Thanks polonus, good to know, maybe I will grab one when they come out with a v2!


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Drkitch109

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This is a BAMF watch. Digging the ceramic bracelet. CP issue is annoying but that can be modded right? Will likely be ordering one in the next week.
 

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For the gen, as well as for the rep: Is the CB glas really tinted (darker)? To me, the pics all look pretty much crystal clear...
 

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For the gen, as well as for the rep: Is the CB glas really tinted (darker)? To me, the pics all look pretty much crystal clear...

You may have mixed up the PAM438 with the PAM441. The PAM441's caseback glass is tinted, the PAM438's is not.
 

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You may have mixed up the PAM438 with the PAM441. The PAM441's caseback glass is tinted, the PAM438's is not.

I thought so, too. But the Reference Guide said "Overall the movement is accurate enough mainly with the darkened back crystal" for the 438, so I got a bit confused. I just checked the guide like 3 times because I was afraid to mix things up.
 

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I thought so, too. But the Reference Guide said "Overall the movement is accurate enough mainly with the darkened back crystal" for the 438, so I got a bit confused. I just checked the guide like 3 times because I was afraid to mix things up.

I'm afraid you are right

It is a mistake in the guide due to make at the same time PAM 441 and 438

As said by mysterio 441 is darkened and 438 is not

Sorry for the troubles
I will correct the GUIDE

ALE
 

tr0y

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I'm afraid you are right

It is a mistake in the guide due to make at the same time PAM 441 and 438

As said by mysterio 441 is darkened and 438 is not

Sorry for the troubles
I will correct the GUIDE

ALE

Absolutely no need to apologize! Your guide is literally my bible & even bibles have mistakes! ;)

Thanks for the top-notch work!!!
Cheers,
Tr0y
 

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Absolutely no need to apologize! Your guide is literally my bible & even bibles have mistakes! ;)

Thanks for the top-notch work!!!
Cheers,
Tr0y

Thanks for your understanding

ALE
 

ThePlayboy

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Hi, I have a 438, since I prefer leather over bracelet, I've bought a gen Asso.

Now my question, this is my first PAM, and I have no idea how to remove the bracelet. Help, anyone?

Lovely watch by the way :)
 

chris3007

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You just need a 140 screwdriver and a tweezers.
Remove the screw with the screwdriver and pull it out with the tweezers. That's it.
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slaughterer62

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If ever there were a watch in need of double AR, it is this. Unless you want to look at yourself putting on makeup when you read the time.
 

ThePlayboy

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You just need a 140 screwdriver and a tweezers.
Remove the screw with the screwdriver and pull it out with the tweezers. That's it.
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Thank you! I didn't want to try without asking, I have done that before. ( I hate waiting for spare parts) ;-)
 

nalomb

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If ever there were a watch in need of double AR, it is this. Unless you want to look at yourself putting on makeup when you read the time.

Agreed -- the AR on this one is a joke, but of all the things that could go wrong on this piece, that's not too severe of a concern In the grand scheme of things ..


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chris3007

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Is there any source for a replacement crystal for the ceramic bezel with better AR?


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