{*PCTeam*} PAM 111 Noob V3 - Discussion, Compilation of data, Wristshots, QC pics

[ALE7575]

The noob 29M has exactly the right thickness of the crown!

So why can they ( noob factory!) not use this crown with their right threads????????

How do you know that? Have you got pics? please

ALE

 

[sharrkey]

Now fitted with a stunning new Gen Pam calf strap from StrapDaddy just need the movement sorted now.

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[ALE7575]

Now fitted with a stunning new Gen Pam calf strap from StrapDaddy just need the movement sorted now.

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Sharrkey, Just PERFECT!!

ALE

 

[sharrkey]

Sharrkey, Just PERFECT!!

ALE

It's getting there mate, just need to get Marlin to sort the movement


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[K3RRY]

OMG ! Rwolf, what an info !!
Many thanks
As far as I know, I think you are meaning that the thickness of the Crown external wheel is bigger in Noob than in Gen and H maker. Isn't it ?
As you can see in below pic:
You are right !!
Many thanks Rwolf for this interesting information
Tomorrow I will try to include it in the PAM GUIDE
ALE

Check this gen out on ebay. the side profile to see the face of the crown is the last picture.

It has the noob crown on it "I" series

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mens-SS-Panerai-PAM111-44MM-Mechanical-COMPLETE-Late-Model-TWO-STRAPS-/180927655023?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item2a2020ec6f

 

[ALE7575]

Check this gen out on ebay. the side profile to see the face of the crown is the last picture.

It has the noob crown on it "I" series

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mens-SS-Panerai-PAM111-44MM-Mechanical-COMPLETE-Late-Model-TWO-STRAPS-/180927655023?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item2a2020ec6f

Therefore that confrim the statement from Rwolf saying that the I-series has "FAT" crown Noob type. Isn't it??

Resuming:

if I want build an historic luminor " A B C D E F G H I J " (CG lever WITHOUT roller) I will use the Noob FAT Crown

if I want build an historic luminor " K L M N O " (CG lever WITH roller) I will use the H Maker SLIM Crown

Tht's right ALE?

ALE

 

[Rwolf]

Yes ALE

another confirm. 3 gen Pams: from the top 360, Pre-A 009, Pre-V 202/a (from a fan forum)

Note the differences beetween the case profiles and the lugs (and obviusly the CGs)

 

[Rwolf]

Here the casebacks (note the distance of the lugs from the external edge of the cases)

All DLC are a little bit different...

 

[Rwolf]

Need to evaluate another thing: the Pams "shadow"

To know what's a Pam "shadow":

http://panerai.watchprosite.com/?show=forumpost&fi=717&pi=3862251&ti=616281

To build a Pam "shadow" we can use the old Noob CBs, erasing softly the printed serial number... easy.

 

[ALE7575]

Hi rwolf
These posts are very interesting information
Many thanks for your kind cooperation


ALE


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EDIT ALE7575 - correcting ALE mistake

Please EDIT the post indicating Pre-V and Pre-A in order to infrom less expert members
Thanks again

 

[Rwolf]

It's a pleasure for me

 

[Rwolf]

Hi rwolf
These posts are very interesting information
Many thanks for your kind cooperation


ALE


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EDIT ALE7575- correcting ALE mistake

Please EDIT the post indicating Pre-V and Pre-A in order to inform less expert members
Thanks again

from what I understand:

360
009 Pre-A
202/a Pre-V

This is a 009 Pre-A from Vannic

http://www.vannic.it/Pam%2009%20PreA/slides/6

 

[Rwolf]

From the same site:

5218-202A No matching Dial

5218-202A

5218-202A Matching Dial

 

[Rwolf]

Another Pam009PreA from Vannic site:

Pam 360:

 

[Rwolf]

It would be interesting to see a comparison of the DLC reps / gens. The famous "pencil lead" color...

 

[plmn1]

I have the same issue too, is there a way to fix it?

It looks like the "wheel" is slightly out of alignment, mine has this problem too. Too bad because everything else is perfect. More owners with this problem?

 

[ALE7575]

I have the same issue too, is there a way to fix it?

Is it possible to have pics indicating clearly this issue in order to discuss about that ??

 

[ALE7575]

@Rwolf

Many thanks Rwolf for your kind explanations and pics.
Yes, I think it would be intersting a thread with DLC "pencil lead" colour Gen-reps.
I hope have some expert member to start this study.

ALE

 

[Rwolf]

@Rwolf

Many thanks Rwolf for your kind explanations and pics.
Yes, I think it would be intersting a thread with DLC "pencil lead" colour Gen-reps.
I hope have some expert member to start this study.

ALE

The Vannic site will be a great place to start it and some other evaluations about old models.

 

[co-axial]

Hi, just got my 111n from Sead on Friday (nice transaction btw ).

First the QC pics from Sead:

Pics (quickies) from co-ax today:

Thoughts:

good crystal, good CG and crown, good lume, good engraving CB, great CP and great lugs!

Not so good is movement engraving (really dissapointed here!). High beat movement runs 40 h plus on full wind.

(rep) Strap sucks - changed immediately to my beloved BOB

Thanks for all your input PC Team - without all this information I would have kept my h-fac 111m. It´s now going on to sales btw.

co-ax