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As you know the long awaited PAM 111 N-series V3 Noob has been just released.
It is and interesting launching for all rep people.
Anyway, nobody really knows what are the real differences and improvements of this version.
But we hope these improvements will be kept in all the future V3 items !!
The purpose of this thread is start a Discussion and data & pics compilation in order to clarify what are the real differences and improvements that we will find in this new V3 version.
I’m not trying to prove if the V3 really has or not some “new†improvements. I’m trying to know WHAT FEATURES OR IMPROVEMENTS WE CAN EXPECT WHEN WE ARE BUYING A PAM111 N Noob V3. And of course WHAT ARE THE FEATURES OR IMPROVEMENTS WE MUST DEMAND FOR THIS WATCH FROM THE DEALERS.
Therefore, please post here all you thoughs, experiences, knowledge, purchases, information, links, review, discussions, pics, wristshots…. about PAM 111 N “V3†Noob.
This time, but just this time, WE WILL ACCEPT QC PICS, even without previous comments or found flaws, in order to have as much info as possible, to know appropriately this new version.
THERE IS A SUMMARY OF IMPROVEMENTS IN POST #335
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showpost.php?p=1169401&postcount=335
STARTING THE DISCUSSION
In order to start this thread I will copy my conclusions posted in a Thread from Toro introducing this PAM 111 N “V3†Noob.
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/pam-111n-v3-115606
My conclusions in above thread were:
- I DON'T WANT TO ATTACK THIS REPLICA. I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW DEFINITIVELY WHAT ARE THE REAL IMPROVEMENTS WE CAN EXPECT WHEN WE BUY THIS V3 VERSION. THAT'S ALL !!
- THE PAM 111 N-series Noob V3 IS THE BEST CURRENT REPLICA OF PAM111
- FOR THE PRICE OF THIS REPLICA IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO ACHIEVE BETTER RESULTS. CONGRATS NOOB !!!
That said I would add:
- The Swan Neck device of these V3 are EXACTLY the same as previous Noob reps.
This is not a problem, as you can see in my threads about SN, but the real thing is that the Swan Neck device is EXACTLY the same in V3 as previous versions. See about that the Noob Swan Neck of the last year replicas here: “SWAN NECK†(Part III) – Statistical Analysis of faults and reliability in replicas
Anyway, I have never understood why Noob doesn't use a long screw like H maker or the gens.
- There are no modifications in the movement
- The V3 version has PRE-V hands, like a lot of previous Vx replicas
- We assume that V3 has single AR, but it is not specified
- V3 version has N-series deeply engraved caseback, like previous Vx replicas.
- The position of the horizontal "A" bar in Panerai is corrected, like in previous versions.
- The CG has beautiful square inner edges, like other previous versions. There is a very little gap CG-case in some items of this version (almost non noticeable)
- V3 has correct CG roller. I didn't know about this issue in previous versions. So I cannot talk about that.
Therefore the only "NEW" improvement would be the ROLLER of the lever. But unfortunately I don't know what is the real improvement. Please clarify.
And there is another "improvement" of which Toro are talking about:
"Better QC out from factory"
Really I don't beleve it. And nobody will be able to prove it. But concerning this QC subject I prefer don't talk because we cannot request more of a watch for such a price
************************************************
And now we start the discussion and compliation of data. Please post all possible thoughts and info about PAM 111 N “V3†Noob
ALE
Below the pics from Toro
It is and interesting launching for all rep people.
Anyway, nobody really knows what are the real differences and improvements of this version.
But we hope these improvements will be kept in all the future V3 items !!
The purpose of this thread is start a Discussion and data & pics compilation in order to clarify what are the real differences and improvements that we will find in this new V3 version.
I’m not trying to prove if the V3 really has or not some “new†improvements. I’m trying to know WHAT FEATURES OR IMPROVEMENTS WE CAN EXPECT WHEN WE ARE BUYING A PAM111 N Noob V3. And of course WHAT ARE THE FEATURES OR IMPROVEMENTS WE MUST DEMAND FOR THIS WATCH FROM THE DEALERS.
Therefore, please post here all you thoughs, experiences, knowledge, purchases, information, links, review, discussions, pics, wristshots…. about PAM 111 N “V3†Noob.
This time, but just this time, WE WILL ACCEPT QC PICS, even without previous comments or found flaws, in order to have as much info as possible, to know appropriately this new version.
THERE IS A SUMMARY OF IMPROVEMENTS IN POST #335
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showpost.php?p=1169401&postcount=335
STARTING THE DISCUSSION
In order to start this thread I will copy my conclusions posted in a Thread from Toro introducing this PAM 111 N “V3†Noob.
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/pam-111n-v3-115606
My conclusions in above thread were:
- I DON'T WANT TO ATTACK THIS REPLICA. I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW DEFINITIVELY WHAT ARE THE REAL IMPROVEMENTS WE CAN EXPECT WHEN WE BUY THIS V3 VERSION. THAT'S ALL !!
- THE PAM 111 N-series Noob V3 IS THE BEST CURRENT REPLICA OF PAM111
- FOR THE PRICE OF THIS REPLICA IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO ACHIEVE BETTER RESULTS. CONGRATS NOOB !!!
That said I would add:
- The Swan Neck device of these V3 are EXACTLY the same as previous Noob reps.
This is not a problem, as you can see in my threads about SN, but the real thing is that the Swan Neck device is EXACTLY the same in V3 as previous versions. See about that the Noob Swan Neck of the last year replicas here: “SWAN NECK†(Part III) – Statistical Analysis of faults and reliability in replicas
Anyway, I have never understood why Noob doesn't use a long screw like H maker or the gens.
- There are no modifications in the movement
- The V3 version has PRE-V hands, like a lot of previous Vx replicas
- We assume that V3 has single AR, but it is not specified
- V3 version has N-series deeply engraved caseback, like previous Vx replicas.
- The position of the horizontal "A" bar in Panerai is corrected, like in previous versions.
- The CG has beautiful square inner edges, like other previous versions. There is a very little gap CG-case in some items of this version (almost non noticeable)
- V3 has correct CG roller. I didn't know about this issue in previous versions. So I cannot talk about that.
Therefore the only "NEW" improvement would be the ROLLER of the lever. But unfortunately I don't know what is the real improvement. Please clarify.
And there is another "improvement" of which Toro are talking about:
"Better QC out from factory"
Really I don't beleve it. And nobody will be able to prove it. But concerning this QC subject I prefer don't talk because we cannot request more of a watch for such a price
************************************************
And now we start the discussion and compliation of data. Please post all possible thoughts and info about PAM 111 N “V3†Noob
ALE
Below the pics from Toro
