{*PCTeam*} PAM 111 Noob V3 - Discussion, Compilation of data, Wristshots, QC pics

[bigbangtheory]

Ale... Please help!

I just bought this pam111n sold as the latest and I asked the seller that if this is the latest v3 then I would take it and to send me his Paypal and he sent the Paypal info in response.. But this one doesn't look like the V3

Please advise

 

[stonesix]

Thanks ALE, seem like this is normal for V3.
I have reply too the seller, now waiting for their response.

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[ALE7575]

Thanks ALE, seem like this is normal for V3.
I have reply too the seller, now waiting for their response.

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No, actually this is normal too for CG of Gen PANERAIs , isn't it?

ALE

 

[ALE7575]

Ale... Please help!

I just bought this pam111n sold as the latest and I asked the seller that if this is the latest v3 then I would take it and to send me his Paypal and he sent the Paypal info in response.. But this one doesn't look like the V3
Please advise

It is impossible to say ir from such a bad pic.
It semms V3 but I need to see caseback engravings hands, better pic of CG with roller....
The pic really seems of a V3

ALE

 

[bigbangtheory]

I'm horrible with right names for parts... But that piece that pushes the crown on v3 has a tiny bolt and this one doesn't ...

 

[stonesix]

No, actually this is normal too for CG of Gen PANERAIs , isn't it?

ALE

Really? I'm noob and never seen a gen before.
Still learning.

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[ALE7575]

I'm horrible with right names for parts... But that piece that pushes the crown on v3 has a tiny bolt and this one doesn't ...

The part you are talking about (and myself when I say Roller) is the Axle of the Roller and the Roller itself.
Yes, it seems is missing, but perhaps is the pic angle the Roller is very close to the crown.

ALE

 

[bigbangtheory]

No, unfortunatelly for me it's not missing , it's not there!!! this looks like my previous pam111n ... I thought all new ones came with the "axle roller" .... I got screwed!

 

[tranzmizzion]

With all the qc pics, I guess my question was missed....

Looking at the incabloc it seems not to line up with the pointer thingy pointing up to the swan neck. Is that normal/ok? does it/should it be lined up? My other clear backed pams seemed to be lined up.

This one too.... All the pams before this I have owned including an early v2 was lined up....

I'm horrible with right names for parts... But that piece that pushes the crown on v3 has a tiny bolt and this one doesn't ...

 

[ALE7575]

With all the qc pics, I guess my question was missed....

This one too.... All the pams before this I have owned including an early v2 was lined up....

It is an aesthetics matter
Really it is not necessary

ALE

 

[cceddlekid]

Ale, did you find out if the crystal is raised the same like gen i the V3 version? these are pictures of my watch, and I think that the crystal is very close to gen when I checked it at an AD. Also, can you explain what is the swan neck problem, I don't really understand the swan neck gap. I assume all the V3 versions have the same swn neck problem? thank you very much

 

[ALE7575]

Ale, did you find out if the crystal is raised the same like gen i the V3 version? these are pictures of my watch, and I think that the crystal is very close to gen when I checked it at an AD. Also, can you explain what is the swan neck problem, I don't really understand the swan neck gap. I assume all the V3 versions have the same swn neck problem? thank you very much

Actually, some V3 from new batch have a little raised crystal, but yours really semms one of the good placed crystals, maybe the best in this thread. Congrats !!

The gap (this is a new name for this flaw!!) in the Swan Neck is produced when the Dagger of the regulator doesn't touch either the micrometric screw or the Swan Neck spring.
A correct Swan Neck device must have the Dagger or regulator lever pressed between the micrometric screw and the Swan Neck spring.
Noob replicas have always a bad swan neck with bad end shape in Swan neck spring, short micrometric screw and about 54% have "gap". In your watch if you enlarge the pic you will see the micrometric screw doesn't touch the Dagger. Is not noticeable at real size and doesn't affect the working of your watch. You are lucky again.

If you like to know about this matter you have three interesting reference threads where you can find ordered all the problems and working of a Swan Neck device gen and rep.
“SWAN NECK†(Part I) – What is this? How does it work?
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/swan-neck-part-what-thisi-84846?p=831645
“SWAN NECK†(Part II) – Does it work in replicas?
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/swan-neck-part-ii-does-84847?p=831646
“SWAN NECK†(Part III) – Statistical Analysis of faults and reliability in replicas
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/swan-neck-part-iii-statistical-90559?t=90559

I hope you will enjoy reading them (a little hard job...LOL)

ALE

 

[cceddlekid]

Actually, some V3 from new batch have a little raised crystal, but yours really semms one of the good placed crystals, maybe the best in this thread. Congrats !!

The gap (this is a new name for this flaw!!) in the Swan Neck is produced when the Dagger of the regulator doesn't touch either the micrometric screw or the Swan Neck spring.
A correct Swan Neck device must have the Dagger or regulator lever pressed between the micrometric screw and the Swan Neck spring.
Noob replicas have always a bad swan neck with bad end shape in Swan neck spring, short micrometric screw and about 54% have "gap". In your watch if you enlarge the pic you will see the micrometric screw doesn't touch the Dagger. Is not noticeable at real size and doesn't affect the working of your watch. You are lucky again.

If you like to know about this matter you have three interesting reference threads where you can find ordered all the problems and working of a Swan Neck device gen and rep.
“SWAN NECK†(Part I) – What is this? How does it work?
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/swan-neck-part-what-thisi-84846?p=831645
“SWAN NECK†(Part II) – Does it work in replicas?
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/swan-neck-part-ii-does-84847?p=831646
“SWAN NECK†(Part III) – Statistical Analysis of faults and reliability in replicas
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/swan-neck-part-iii-statistical-90559?t=90559

I hope you will enjoy reading them (a little hard job...LOL)

ALE

o wow that is a good thing to hear that the one I got is pretty good. I will read the about the swan neck to familiarize with the watch.
thank you Ale!

 

[stonesix]

The part you are talking about (and myself when I say Roller) is the Axle of the Roller and the Roller itself.
Yes, it seems is missing, but perhaps is the pic angle the Roller is very close to the crown. However, the Noob simple as good as the Gen one.

ALE

Well, I think its missing in even in in the Pam111M in the comparison photo in "Puretime's Ultimate Pam 111M teardown review" .
In the pic, the Gen also no Axle roller visible from the top view as compared to H-maker.

 

[sharrkey]

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[ALE7575]

Well, I think its missing in even in in the Pam111M in the comparison photo in "Puretime's Ultimate Pam 111M teardown review" .
In the pic, the Gen also no Axle roller visible from the top view as compared to H-maker.

Yes I see, but maybe Puretime's is an old gen and the current series have visible axle. Otherwise I don't understand the new Noob lever with axle.

More inputs about this matter ??

ALE

 

[ALE7575]

Wow! Sharrkey
You are starting to well operate your new camera !!

ALE

 

[sharrkey]

Wow! Sharrkey
You are starting to well operate your new camera !!

ALE

Lol, thanks Ale but been using a little photo shop with the last pics?


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[Fiddo]

Yes I see, but maybe Puretime's is an old gen and the current series have visible axle. Otherwise I don't understand the new Noob lever with axle.

More inputs about this matter ??

ALE

From sales I have seen for the Gen 111N, the shaft/axle is visible. So, I think it s correct for the V3 111N.

 

[ALE7575]

From sales I have seen for the Gen 111N, the shaft/axle is visible. So, I think it s correct for the V3 111N.

I think so
anyway, some new inputs will be welcome
Thanks Fiddo
ALE