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Panerai Advice

Luciano Castro

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If you like the 111 but you doubt if its worth getting one because its similar in case, dial and complications even tough they are different why not buy a 312 or 1312, those 2 have similar dials to 111 and have different case and one extra complication (day) and are automatic

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L075

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Does anyone have any advice on the level of wearing ability the factory straps are? As in we know they're not great, but just how bad can it be? Passable or does it merit an immediate strap upgrade once you receive your watch? Thanks!
 

mysterio

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Does anyone have any advice on the level of wearing ability the factory straps are? As in we know they're not great, but just how bad can it be? Passable or does it merit an immediate strap upgrade once you receive your watch? Thanks!

Well, they can be worn, at the very least. If I would put them in order the best rep leather straps are the Assolutemente straps, followed by the cracked leather straps then the calf straps and lastly, the crocodile print straps. The last two feel like cardboard strips. But like I said, you can wear them until you can get aftermarket straps.
 

L075

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Well, they can be worn, at the very least. If I would put them in order the best rep leather straps are the Assolutemente straps, followed by the cracked leather straps then the calf straps and lastly, the crocodile print straps. The last two feel like cardboard strips. But like I said, you can wear them until you can get aftermarket straps.

Thanks for the pointers. I've never actually held one of the factory straps in hand but from the talk of their quality amongst members here, you'd almost think those things were radioactive.
 

Robb

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For some of us, myself included who are new to the Pan Reps
Would appreciate it when the 111 is reffered
if you could be a bit more specific with the Maker.
For E.G. Toro sells
111v4 Noob - $258
111 N Fact - $378
111 H Fact - $158
would be helpfull which one is being mentioned.
Thank you kindly



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mysterio

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For some of us, myself included who are new to the Pan Reps
Would appreciate it when the 111 is reffered
if you could be a bit more specific with the Maker.
For E.G. Toro sells
111v4 Noob - $258
111 N Fact - $378
111 H Fact - $158
would be helpfull which one is being mentioned.
Thank you kindly



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Looks like you need to read up a bit, check the link in my signature. Look for "PAM 111". ;)
 

Robb

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In ALE Pam Review they rate the KW as best for 411
is KW the same as V6
Because the KW is not on Toros site for 411 ?

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Robb

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ALEs review refers to the KW Boutiques Edition
being best for 411
Toro has Limited Edition V6 411
I hope this is the same Rep were talking about
& I havnt stuffed up ?

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Luciano Castro

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ALEs review refers to the KW Boutiques Edition
being best for 411
Toro has Limited Edition V6 411
I hope this is the same Rep were talking about
& I havnt stuffed up ?

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Kw, v6f or xf are kind of the same factory. You bought the best version available

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Robb

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Thanks Luciano
Your allways saving my ass mate
I appreciate it !!
I just found that Review today so I was hoping
I was ok with it.
Its at the post office should have it tomorrow
Ive got the Pan bug now
Looking at the next one
I like the dome glass Pans
They look classy dressy.

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Robb

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Someone may make more sense to this
ALEs review says go with
Noob for Pan 127 47mm
Toro only has 127E- ZF.
No Noob ?

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mysterio

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Someone may make more sense to this
ALEs review says go with
Noob for Pan 127 47mm
Toro only has 127E- ZF.
No Noob ?

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Noob has long run out of stock and has stopped producing the PAM127. But the KW and ZF versions are just as well made and include the Y-incabloc modification which is not present on the Noob version.
 

Robb

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Thanks for that !!
Re the 111 Noob V3 &V4
I cant seem to find the visual differences between them both.
Which one I should buy
Ive been reading on it but cant find any smoking gun between them both
maybe I missed it somewhere
even though the V4 is cheaper by approx $100

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mysterio

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Thanks for that !!
Re the 111 Noob V3 &V4
I cant seem to find the visual differences between them both.
Which one I should buy
Ive been reading on it but cant find any smoking gun between them both
maybe I missed it somewhere
even though the V4 is cheaper by approx $100

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If you can't make out the differences, then you can pick whichever you like. V4 is the latest but there has been no real V4 released. Maybe you'll get lucky and get a true V4 at $100 cheaper.
 

Robb

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I guess the question is
If V4 is the latest version
What would justify it being a latest V4 ?

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mysterio

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I guess the question is
If V4 is the latest version
What would justify it being a latest V4 ?

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Umm, if you read (even just a little and not do this whole spoon feeding thing) you would know that PAM111 are being sold as V4 but are actually composed of V4 parts mixed with older versions. So what would justify being an actual V4? It should have all V4 parts. Now how to know that? I suggest you do some reading. It wouldn't hurt, really.
 

Robb

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If you were also reading my post
I did say that I have been reading on ALE review and have maybe missed it somewhere along the way
as Toro has both V3 & V4
"Empathy for the human species"




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If you were also reading my post
I did say that I have been reading on ALE review and have maybe missed it somewhere along the way
as Toro has both V3 & V4
"Empathy for the human species"




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No empathy for people who have been here since 2015 and have 700 messages!!

Don't be mean to @mysterio !!