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Pam438 ceramic ---- [ QC pics allowed ]----------

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demisaint

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I see, i thought they are different factories but only share same maker for Pam 438 and 441..

well good to know that there is only one source for the ceramic , so any QC problems posted are likely to be common problems faced by all ;)
 
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ddaddy1982

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PolonusTM said:
just some lucky experience with my 438: it gained 1 second (!) for last 7 days... rock solid and incredible... the movement in 441 is "regular rep movement" gaining +/- 5 seconds a day for random reason.
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This is impressive; did you do any adjustments?
 
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stxtf

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mysterio said:
I would suggest just taking the bracelet to the watchsmith to get it resized. Unless you're going to use the resizer tool frequently (which is apparent that you don't since you do not have it yet) and you may need to hammer the pin out, which may be dicey if you don't know what you're doing. You're going to need to do this only once, when you resize the bracelet for your wrist.
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I have the resizer tool but the pin is too big.

Do the pins go a certain direction? I don't see any arrows. This one reminds me of the LMPO bracelet, and that one the pins only went one direction
 
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feloniousmonk

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My guess would be that this uses pins with sleeves. The sleeves are like tiny, easily lost, tubes. In this type of link, direction doesn't make a difference. This is just a guess though. I don't have the watch in-hand.
 
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stxtf

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I thought the LMPO link removal was as bad as it possibly could get. This one is even worse.

Why? Because the ceramic will crack off in little pieces with even moderate stress involved. Even being careful with a hammer and pin tool, I have several ruined links, sliced my hand with pliers, and now have to order a new bracelet on a watch not 24 hours old. And if that one doesn't work out, this watch goes in the garbage.
 
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c888

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stxtf said:
I thought the LMPO link removal was as bad as it possibly could get. This one is even worse.

Why? Because the ceramic will crack off in little pieces with even moderate stress involved. Even being careful with a hammer and pin tool, I have several ruined links, sliced my hand with pliers, and now have to order a new bracelet on a watch not 24 hours old. And if that one doesn't work out, this watch goes in the garbage.
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Ah, don't garbage it. Its too nice of a watch. I'm on the fence ordering one, but I thought ceramic was supposed to hard to damage.
 
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Yourlefttoe

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View attachment 34961

Received mine yesterday

Love the styling

Few issues though


Deployant clasp does not flick open when buttons are pressed... I have to use my fingers to pull it open at the same time....

Does anyone have a fix?


Also the clasp buttons are sharp but nothing a file can't fix

Bracelet adjustment is a pain in the butt- be very careful as i cracked a link being careless- take your time!!


Other than that great wactch
 

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Yourlefttoe

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Btw the recessed CP is a non issue irl


Not obvious even in daylight due to the black hands on black dial even at 10cm
Its only visible if you are really inspecting it at different angles with the crystal up your nose


Or on photos



Edit:The nonmoving plastic wheel on the movement is more of an issue
 
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ALTL

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Regarding the ceramic bracelet being fragile, sorry to hear that. Perhaps we will have to wait and see how the cases hold up in time. I visited an AD and viewed the 441, since they didn't have the 438. I was told that when the 1st ceramic watches came out they broke rather easily so they had to stop production and redesign the ceramic alloy...
 
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chris3007

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First PAM ever, haha what a fun
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Snaaakeey

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Any recommendations on a tool for removing the case back? Mine was tight a f?!k. Got it of to regulate but scratched the coating on the case back rim. More or less impossible to get the power down on the case back with out marking the relatively delicate coating. Put a request in with PureTime for a replacement, hope they can sort me out. Mark is very small but you know how it is with a new watch ha ha !


Sent from the Pad of I
 
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Norrie

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Snaaakeey said:
Any recommendations on a tool for removing the case back? Mine was tight a f?!k. Got it of to regulate but scratched the coating on the case back rim. More or less impossible to get the power down on the case back with out marking the relatively delicate coating. Put a request in with PureTime for a replacement, hope they can sort me out. Mark is very small but you know how it is with a new watch ha ha !


Sent from the Pad of I
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Rubber ball?
 
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mysterio

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ALTL said:
Regarding the ceramic bracelet being fragile, sorry to hear that. Perhaps we will have to wait and see how the cases hold up in time. I visited an AD and viewed the 441, since they didn't have the 438. I was told that when the 1st ceramic watches came out they broke rather easily so they had to stop production and redesign the ceramic alloy...
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I think the AD meant the PAM375. It was announced but never released because of issues with the case material.
 
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