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PAM000 XF

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d4m.test

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Xf is looking really sick im ordering the 1312 from XF as we speak can't wait to get mine.
 
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d4m.test

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Bought mine from Ryan and is now waiting for shipment. I'll post some pics when it arrives. Can't wait!
 

brio.it

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d4m.test

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This rep is very impressive and growing on me !
I never saw a lume application like that before....Thanks for sharing this nice picture !

It is definitely impressive. I’m happy that I was able to get one of these so soon. Excited to see the next step with their other Pams!

Cheers!
 

PAMaholic

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since there is always two steps forward, one step back in chinese rep manufacturing it has to be said that the lume application on the dial is very weak compared to the hands and overall not comparable to our known super reps like 111 or the H-Factory 000 or 005. Lume is not at all super rep like. I think they get there slim application due to reducing the total amount of lume material used instead of changing the whole manufacturing process.
 
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groot

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since there is always two steps forward, one step back in chinese rep manufacturing it has to be said that the lume application on the dial is very weak compared to the hands and overall not comparable to our known super reps like 111 or the H-Factory 000 or 005. Lume is not at all super rep like. I think they get there slim application due to reducing the total amount of lume material used instead of changing the whole manufacturing process.

The lume is indeed weak. However, it is not obvious unless we are looking out for it.

Put it another way, I have only really noticed the lume, caught me by surprise because I wasn't watching out for it, when they are vastly superior. An example I can think of are the Maranez watches. Even Seiko can't match them. The transition from a sunny driveway into the basement carpark, the Maranez shine like torches. For other so-called superior lume, tbh I never had any impression of them.

I don't own a gen zero so I am not able to comment on how good the lume is on the gen. Sausages are supposed to be better than sandwiches. So this is one area where the factories should continue to work at.
 

PAMaholic

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The lume is indeed weak. However, it is not obvious unless we are looking out for it.

Put it another way, I have only really noticed the lume, caught me by surprise because I wasn't watching out for it, when they are vastly superior. An example I can think of are the Maranez watches. Even Seiko can't match them. The transition from a sunny driveway into the basement carpark, the Maranez shine like torches. For other so-called superior lume, tbh I never had any impression of them.

I don't own a gen zero so I am not able to comment on how good the lume is on the gen. Sausages are supposed to be better than sandwiches. So this is one area where the factories should continue to work at.
I iwn several gen and even the painted dials are far superior...
 

boutsk

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You can notice the difference if you put at toro's a side by side lumeshot of noob 005 and a lumeshot of xf 005. The hands of xf have the same lume with the hands and the dial of noob, but the dial lume of 005 xf is weaker

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mysterio

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You can notice the difference if you put at toro's a side by side lumeshot of noob 005 and a lumeshot of xf 005. The hands of xf have the same lume with the hands and the dial of noob, but the dial lume of 005 xf is weaker

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Side by side pictures are useless if the shooting conditions are different.

Noob
IMG_6111-1024x768.JPG

XF
IMG_3034-1024x768.JPG


Lighting conditions are obviously different, what more if the camera used, the exposure, etc.?

Actually if you even check the Noob picture with a simple eyedropper tool, take the brightest area from one of the markers and compare it to the color of the hands, the hands are of a lighter color as well, same as XF. So the XF 000 is not any worse, nor better than the Noob 000 offering.