PAM 382 Bronzo - QC Pics allowed Thread

[kilowattore]

Hey guys, need some help here. I was offered this below watch in a trade offer and not exactly sure about it. It doesn't appear to actually be bronze, painted maybe? The guy said he bought it here in m2m for $200 a few months ago but couldn't tell me much more. Any info or advice is greatly appreciated!

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Most likely the gold plated version. I think WBK sells it, check his section if you want to compare it.
I wouldn't spend 200 usd on this, but that's just me.

 

[kilowattore]

Got these QC today! Any comments would be helpful from the experts

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Looks good to me

 

[TheSociety]

Looks good to me

Thanks! I confirmed it


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[tireburnerturner]

Looks like a cheapo..caseback says stainless steel and should say titanium for one ..im sure them are a lot more tells too

Thanks stevebanshee! My thoughts exactly. Just wanted to confirm


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[tireburnerturner]

Most likely the gold plated version. I think WBK sells it, check his section if you want to compare it.
I wouldn't spend 200 usd on this, but that's just me.

I appreciate your feedback. The main reason the 382 is so enticing is the bronze case! If it's not bronze I don't want it. Thanks!!


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[cyprema]

Can someone please write what the Bronzo weighs?

 

[PAM1983]

Just a curious question... Have we seen an unmolested non patina Bronzo shipped to anyone that has the bezel shine around the edge? I mean a totally patina free shine?

 

[TheSociety]

Just a curious question... Have we seen an unmolested non patina Bronzo shipped to anyone that has the bezel shine around the edge? I mean a totally patina free shine?

I thought they would come that way too but I guess not. My QC images for both of the Bronzos has been patina'ed already. Kinda wished they came clean but I guess there is always the ketchup method


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[vjkin]

just received QC Pics from Ryan...

What do you think about it?[emoji4]

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[freefallrlc]

[h=2]Help! A confused bronzo pam382 customer[/h]

I finally want to order a Pam382 but I´m confused by the versions a bit.
I want to get the best one possible, of course. Case and movement looking closer to the gen. The bronze case are always the same and all get the same patina? Because I want to grow it a nice patina when I have it. Are the metals behavong the same with the patina?
I´m down to these 2 models perhaps:
http://www.puretime.watch/product/pa...n-strap-p9000/
and
http://www.puretime.watch/product/pa...rap-zp9000-v4/

Which one do you suggest? The case looks kinda same well. But what about the movement? which one closer to gen? because these seem flipped. P9000 or ZP900 V4?

Thanks for the advice in advance ! unk:​

 

[Kent-992]

Hi Vjkin,

I think it looks great!
Can't see any mistakes here.

Would like to see some pictures once received

 

[Kent-992]

Hello Everyone,

I a new to this forum but am already impressed by the community evolving here! That's really nice to see!
I just pulled the trigger on a bronzo which I purchased from Toro.

I will keep you guys posted once I receive my QC pictures

BR,
Kent

 

[vjkin]

Hi Vjkin,

I think it looks great!
Can't see any mistakes here.

Would like to see some pictures once received

forget it... Ryan says me that it has a problem with movement and he'll proof to take another one... I'll post the new QC Pics as soon as I'll get them [emoji6]

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[colorao01]

I have many Pams many from KW and noob and for Bronzo I got last version of Zf V4 and very impressed with bisel quality and watch, I recomend this version I think in this model ZF V4 is better than KW

 

[vjkin]

I have many Pams many from KW and noob and for Bronzo I got last version of Zf V4 and very impressed with bisel quality and watch, I recomend this version I think in this model ZF V4 is better than KW

what I have purchased is this:

http://www.intime.co/panerai-submersible/2095-pam382-n-bronzo-zf-1-1-best-edition-v4.html


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[colorao01]

Yes I got that version.

 

[ALE7575]

I have many Pams many from KW and noob and for Bronzo I got last version of Zf V4 and very impressed with bisel quality and watch, I recomend this version I think in this model ZF V4 is better than KW

I don't agree due to some reasons:

If you read PAM GUIDE you can see the main differences between two versions, leaving aside the upper external edge of the bezel, KW version is better and more accurate, CG and CG chamfered, caseback, vertical and horizontal sections of bezel knusrling, LUME (colour and intensity), inscriptions, Cannon pinion.... besides Seagull NON-inverted
movement is more accurate and cheaper and very reliable.

And we know the real composition of KW bronze, almost the same as gen, whereas we don't have data of ZFac bronze
KW PAM382 Bronze material – Official Chemical Analysis (the definitive answer) ******
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/...mical-Analysis-(the-definitive-answer)-******

Due to above commented the most sure value is KW version

ALE

 

[PAM1983]

Yeah. KW ALL THE WAY!

 

[PAM1983]

what I have purchased is this:

http://www.intime.co/panerai-submersible/2095-pam382-n-bronzo-zf-1-1-best-edition-v4.html





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That is definitely the old version. Wrong color. It looks like Brass not Bronze

 

[ALE7575]

That is definitely the old version. Wrong color. It looks like Brass not Bronze

We all have to be careful judging the material by the colour on pics. It is impossible to make a wise decision about the material just seeing the colour on pics. These colours depend on a lot of factors different from the material used.

Intime watch above commented is the last version of ZFac fitted with the last movement ZP9000-V2.5 from this factory, it is a decorated P.9000 A7750 base with NON-inverted layout and Improved (balance cock decoration and balance wheel "hole", between others). This movement is as accurate as KW Seagull NON-inverted leaving aside the placement of Balance wheel, clearly less accurate in an A7750 based
Regarding the material, as above commented, I was not able to get a sample to make the chemical analysis. IMO opinion it is a Bronze but we cannot assure that without a chemical analysis as I made with the KW sample.

ALE