PAM 111 Noob V3->V4, KW–V6Fac & H maker - (**QC pics checking**)

[mysterio]

Hi @mysterio and @ALE7575 can I check with you if it's possible to post QC pics for PAM 417 V6F maker here? From toro of course. Couldn't resist the deal.

Also, v6f and kw maker is the same?

No, you cannot as this is the PAM111 thread, clearly not the same model. Like you said, it is such a good deal. He's not selling it because there are issues with the watch. It's just that there probably have been too many produced of the Boutique Editions having so many variations on the caseback with exactly the same dial. Unless there is something really problematic that you see with a particular QC of the watch, those QC pictures are yours and yours alone.

 

[d4m.test]

Hi mysterio bro, able to let me know my above pics whether is it a v3 or v4? From a dealer in Singapore.

 

[d4m.test]

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Any kind bro able to help me see whether its a v3 or mix?

First rep purchased..newcomer in this forum too.

 

[ShovelnTC]

It seems ok to me. Version?

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Guys go to the FIRST post in this thread and see the angles needed for the guys to be able to identify. Your pics don't include these angles.

 

[dadog13]

It’a hard to go through 35 pages in order to look for photos. I don’t know if these have been shared already but I’ll post them, maybe they will be informative in order to have a better feeling for differences between Noob V4 & genuine PAM111

Enjoy!











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[alexandros2]

unfortunately the picture of the movement is not so clear.
but for me seems almost twins

 

[hbr1]

nvm

 

[omega662]

I just got my third rep a v4 111 it is beautiful, i just have one question is the crown supposed to articulate or bend when closing the arm.

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[mysterio]

I just got my third rep a v4 111 it is beautiful, i just have one question is the crown supposed to articulate or bend when closing the arm.

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Bend? The crown is a solid piece of metal. There is no "give" especially when the source of the applying force is the lever. Now if you're saying the crown sort of wobbles when the lever is closed, no ii is not supposed to do that. It may be a sign that the crown is loose and not properly screwed on the stem, which will just get worse over time.

 

[omega662]

I figured it was supposed to be solid, is this a known or common issue?

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[omega662]

I see there is a tutorial on how to fix, i am going to try to fix myself.

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[tommikeson]

Nobody talks about the quality of the steel used. Do any of the experts know if the steel quality varies between the makers? What about in comparison to gen?

 

[acozcan]

I have ordered V4 and received my QC pictures. I would like to share it for your valuable opinions. ButmI couldn’t able to upload any pictures

I hope Flickr link is working and useful..

https://www.flickr.com/photos/153530.../shares/Y2Q7p9

 

[Sommelier]

If I had to make a guess, I'd say polishing compound residues.

 

[mysterio]

Nobody talks about the quality of the steel used. Do any of the experts know if the steel quality varies between the makers? What about in comparison to gen?

To know the quality of the steel, there are two methods, destructive and non-destructive. However for each method there is an issue. For destructive testing, no one would in their right mind would offer their gen watch as sacrificial lamb to use for the test. For the non-destructive testing, either nobody has access to the right equipment, or if they do, don't want to do it (which we won't force of course).

 

[tommikeson]

Thanks Mysterio, informative as always. What about observed quality? I bought a 382 and it makes my H-maker 111 feel like a toy. Does the Noob v4 have the same light feel? What about when compared to a gen 111?

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[acozcan]

I have ordered V4 and received my QC pictures. I would like to share it for your valuable opinions. ButmI couldn’t able to upload any pictures

I hope Flickr link is working and useful..

https://www.flickr.com/photos/153530.../shares/Y2Q7p9

Dear mysterio and ALE7575,
I would appreciate if you check my new watch. It is very hard for me to understand details about V4 and catching the flaws..

I understand that for the case it is not impossible to say whether it is V4 or V3 but it is not important for me. I am looking for other flaws or details that can be important.

 

[mysterio]

Dear mysterio and ALE7575,
I would appreciate if you check my new watch. It is very hard for me to understand details about V4 and catching the flaws..

I understand that for the case it is not impossible to say whether it is V4 or V3 but it is not important for me. I am looking for other flaws or details that can be important.

Since it is allowed to post QC pics in this thread, then you may post here.

 

[acozcan]

Since it is allowed to post QC pics in this thread, then you may post here.

I tried but unable to upload photos here. There are some problems. I read the entire forum but could not upload any so I used flickr

 

[mysterio]

I tried but unable to upload photos here. There are some problems. I read the entire forum but could not upload any so I used flickr

Upload to pixelsbin.com or imgur.com and put the image links in between image tags.