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PAM 111 NOOB V4. Went to the boutique multiple times before pulling the trigger on a V4. Very pleased. This is definitely up there among NWBIG. Under the microscope, the finish perhaps not as good. But the look, weight, texture, and wear is essentially 1:1 with the gen.
 
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I read some people’s comments and think to myself: “at which point does one realise that being an expert in fake branded watches is about as much of an achievement as using the toilet unassisted at the age of 20.”

I love the rep world but some people take it so seriously and develop a level of bravado through their “expertise”. Come back down to earth and stop being a c**t.


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I read some people’s comments and think to myself: “at which point does one realise that being an expert in fake branded watches is about as much of an achievement as using the toilet unassisted at the age of 20.”

I love the rep world but some people take it so seriously and develop a level of bravado through their “expertise”. Come back down to earth and stop being a c**t.


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Well I guess that pretty much sums up your view on the subject.

Perhaps you are on the wrong forum.

Personally I am very happy that there are people who have the dedication to become experts on any subject which pleases them.

"The reflection in the mirror comforts the hypocrite"
 
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Well I guess that pretty much sums up your view on the subject.

Perhaps you are on the wrong forum.

Personally I am very happy that there are people who have the dedication to become experts on any subject which pleases them.

"The reflection in the mirror comforts the hypocrite"

My problem lies not with the willingness to immerse oneself into the subject, especially if one is passionate about it.

Certain expert members’ pompous attitudes are what put me off. Sorry if that was not clear from the first message. The message I was trying to convey is that fake watch collecting is not a subject that is of much use outside of this tiny community, this level of arrogance you would expect from a more worthwhile subject.

With that being said, there are plenty of other members who are friendly and welcoming. I check this forum daily for new information and to broaden my knowledge on a very interesting topic, I’m also a paid supporter of the forum because I love learning.

Let’s not kid each other, this stuff is pretty much useless anywhere else.


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And that makes what difference exactly to any other hobby?

Hmmm... Let’s use our brains for a moment. Replica watches are... Drum roll... Illegal. So the real world applications of this hobby are minimal. If anything, the less you expose your passion for counterfeit timepieces to outsiders, the better.

So that really leaves you with very few places to express your passion outside of these forums and subreddits. The expertise doesn’t really carry itself further than this. If you want to compare it with pottery for example, pottery is a hobby that can be transferred into other real life applications. One could make some ornamental pots and bowls to sell at a flea market etc. Can’t really do that with replica watches, legally, I’m afraid.



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Hmmm... Let’s use our brains for a moment. Replica watches are... Drum roll... Illegal. So the real world applications of this hobby are minimal. If anything, the less you expose your passion for counterfeit timepieces to outsiders, the better.

So that really leaves you with very few places to express your passion outside of these forums and subreddits. The expertise doesn’t really carry itself further than this. If you want to compare it with pottery for example, pottery is a hobby that can be transferred into other real life applications. One could make some ornamental pots and bowls to sell at a flea market etc. Can’t really do that with replica watches, legally, I’m afraid.



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That's complete nonesense frankly.
The skills shown by many of the eminent experts in this forum are extremely transferable to other areas outside of Rep watches and even outside of horology in general.
Many people , due to their interest in reps have become very knowledgeable about watches and horology in general.

The point you are making is absurd and insulting to those who help this hobby enormously through their dedication.

Using the brain to see the wider perspective may indeed be something you would do well to apply.
 
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That's complete nonesense frankly.
The skills shown by many of the eminent experts in this forum are extremely transferable to other areas outside of Rep watches and even outside of horology in general.
Many people , due to their interest in reps have become very knowledgeable about watches and horology in general.

The point you are making is absurd and insulting to those who help this hobby enormously through their dedication.

Using the brain to see the wider perspective may indeed be something you would do well to apply.

General horology knowledge and information is obviously useful outside of replica watches. That isn’t a very smart point you’re making, because watchmaking is an actual profession.

Knowledge of gen vs rep bezel scallops, insert engravings, blackhole effects on cyclopses and arguing over which shade of blue looks more “gen like” are not transferable skills, I am afraid, regardless of how you would like to word it.


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I dare to disagree. It's legal to possess them, almost everywhere in the world.

“It is against the law to sell counterfeit goods but it is not against the law to UNKNOWINGLY buy or be in possession of such goods. The key is in the subjective element of unknowingly buying counterfeit goods. If you knowingly buy counterfeit goods then yes that is illegal.”

A simple google search will give you this answer. If rep collecting is your hobby then you are knowingly buying counterfeit goods, which is illegal.


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The U.S. Department of Justice, however, has stated that federal law doesn't prohibit an individual from buying a counterfeit product for personal use, even if they do so knowingly.
 

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General horology knowledge and information is obviously useful outside of replica watches. That isn’t a very smart point you’re making, because watchmaking is an actual profession.

Knowledge of gen vs rep bezel scallops, insert engravings, blackhole effects on cyclopses and arguing over which shade of blue looks more “gen like” are not transferable skills, I am afraid, regardless of how you would like to word it.


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Sorry you are just completely wrong . Such skills of discernement and analysis are highly regarded in many different fields. The subject matter to which the developed skills are put, are not a negative impact on the skills themselves.