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I think it looks darn near perfect. Never owned one, but they are growing on me.
 

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This is a great source of info for us all so thanks @simonjay and Tim and all others who contributed. In terms of accuracy it's important to have the exact versions, so for instance the Breitling Superocean Heritage Black on the list needs to have Noob v2 added to it as there are current versions of this watch which are not very good and the drsctiption as stands could lead to someone buying one. This leads on to a related but important point which is the SOH v2, like some of the others listed, hasn't been made for years so you will only get it m2m, so perhaps this could be shown by classifying the watches as TD if they are currently available to buy new, or m2m if they have been discontinued and are only available that way.

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Yes, that would make this already great list even more valuable.
 

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What was his price out of interest?

Full disclosure: I've never bought or owned any of TC's work. I've only seen them listed in m2m from $650 - $750 or even higher, depending on what other "upgrades" had been done. I imagine his direct price is in that ballpark.
 

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Hi there
Is it possible to consider this in the list
Please.
I did get two bits of feedback on it earlier in this blog
One mentioned the movement not being a match, however, this post mark on appearance.
Also the action is a smooth sweep so that helps its appearance.
The other comment was on the bezel not turning . This was incorrect as the Gen does not have a turning bezel either


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Hi guys first post here :)
Why not the Black Bay Black & Blue on the list?
 

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Seconded. With gen straps (ridiculously expensive, but makes a huge difference) The One reps are virtually indistinguishable from their gen alter egos.
@SMP_lover has made some very goodlooking gen spec straps if my memory serves me correct.


*edit: Why would anyone disagree on what I think I remember? Is it wrong? Please correct me then.
 

Hyjynx

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@SMP_lover has made some very goodlooking gen spec straps if my memory serves me correct.

Correct. He made me a real nice black leather one for my The One black dial. I just had to get the gen brown ostrich for my white dial as nothing else in his impressive catalog comes even close.
 

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Does anyone have the link to the blue dial hublot bb v6 shown in the picture? I looked on many of the trusted dealer sites but could not find it. Thank you in advance!
 
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Very nice thread, amazing info!
Thank you for your time sirs! :clap_1:
 

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The PAM boutique ranges are also pretty spot on. I couldn't fathom sending 50 times the money for a gen.
Intererested to see that toro is advertising the v6 version at $128 while the H factory version is going for $308 dollars. I believe that the v6 version is superior, so why the gulf in price?
 

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The PAM boutique ranges are also pretty spot on. I couldn't fathom sending 50 times the money for a gen.
Intererested to see that toro is advertising the v6 version at $128 while the H factory version is going for $308 dollars. I believe that the v6 version is superior, so why the gulf in price?
The V6 started slowing down intermittently on the seconds hand, I'm not happy. Oh well, it was dirt cheap.
 

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For many years I have owned Gens I have an extensive collection and as a serial flipper for many years there are not many watches I have not at one time owned.
Recently I have started buying some very interesting Reps. Times have changed and manufacturing techniques have advanced, along with measuring techniques.
There are of course many watches which for reasons of complication and various details will not rep well.
I now find that I am compiling in my mind a list of watches where I believe IMHO that it is simply not worth buying the gen. That is if you are prepared to accept that the movement in your rep may over years need some (Not even expensive ) TLC.

Here is the list and why

BP FF (Noob) Unless you plan to go diving don't bother with the gen. There is no significant difference. I have both and have had the opportunity to examine them side by side.

Zenith type 20 Extra special. I have held both the rep and the gen in my hands and made direct examination. Very slight hand and dial texture difference visible only with loupe and in good light.

Cartier Santos 100 XL
No difference that I can detect with side by side comparison. Even on the gen the cabochon is synthetic and not of higher quality than the Rep.

Rolex Submariner (Noob V7 AS 3135) Unless you plan to go diving IMHO there is not any significant difference I have owned 4 gen Ceramic Subs and still have one .

Pam 111 (Noob V4) Exactly the same in every way in a side by side examination . If you are hyper critical the gen has a tiny bit better finish in the movement plates and wheels .

I almost put the JF AP diver on this list but holding the gen and rep in my hand there are very slight differences n the level of finish in the screws around the bezel , but that is all. Close !

I am sure I will find more watches over time which are not worth buying in Gen.

Anyone want to add to the list of watches which are simply not worth buying in Gen
I'm interested in the best Cartier roadster made. Is there a really good one available? I hate asking but I've tried researching it in the forums and can find very little about these watches????? Is it because there are no real good ones made? Thank you for any help you can provide.