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Not worth buying in gen

trotter

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For many years I have owned Gens I have an extensive collection and as a serial flipper for many years there are not many watches I have not at one time owned.
Recently I have started buying some very interesting Reps. Times have changed and manufacturing techniques have advanced, along with measuring techniques.
There are of course many watches which for reasons of complication and various details will not rep well.
I now find that I am compiling in my mind a list of watches where I believe IMHO that it is simply not worth buying the gen. That is if you are prepared to accept that the movement in your rep may over years need some (Not even expensive ) TLC.

Here is the list and why

BP FF (Noob) Unless you plan to go diving don't bother with the gen. There is no significant difference. I have both and have had the opportunity to examine them side by side.

Zenith type 20 Extra special. I have held both the rep and the gen in my hands and made direct examination. Very slight hand and dial texture difference visible only with loupe and in good light.

Cartier Santos 100 XL
No difference that I can detect with side by side comparison. Even on the gen the cabochon is synthetic and not of higher quality than the Rep.

Rolex Submariner (Noob V7 AS 3135) Unless you plan to go diving IMHO there is not any significant difference I have owned 4 gen Ceramic Subs and still have one .

Pam 111 (Noob V4) Exactly the same in every way in a side by side examination . If you are hyper critical the gen has a tiny bit better finish in the movement plates and wheels .

I almost put the JF AP diver on this list but holding the gen and rep in my hand there are very slight differences n the level of finish in the screws around the bezel , but that is all. Close !

I am sure I will find more watches over time which are not worth buying in Gen.

Anyone want to add to the list of watches which are simply not worth buying in Gen
Hi great read when you talk about the AP Diver jf v7 and level of finishing on the screws can you explain what the difference is and how to correct it if possible and people say the rubber strap is almost on par whats your take on the strap comparison
 

sub4me

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Someone didn't get a nap today...

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You've probably never owned a gen, lol. Now stop worrying about WTF I post and concern yourself with something else.
 

cpd2186

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You've probably never owned a gen, lol. Now stop worrying about WTF I post and concern yourself with something else.
Lol, you are correct! I have owned a gen Casio G Shock and a Purple Barney watch though.....Do they count? I'm not concerned with much in life and this is humoring me so I'm enjoying it!

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Thrasher

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We really shouldn't get our panties in a bunch here, I think the OP is strictly talking about appearance not quality of manufacturing. My NOOB 45mm 600m Pumpkin next to my genuine was only distinguishable in a few minor areas that no one not even a AD walking the street would notice.
 

sub4me

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I know what you mean but as you can see I'm playing with the stupid here, lmfao.
 

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Bro, we don't think you are stupid! We are family here, let's just love one another and be happy!

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Maron

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Knock it off ya dope hehe

Reps can look great or practically as gen. But there is no comparison in materials, manufacturing and assembly.

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Although i somewhat agree with the op in general appearance of the watch, lets not forget whats driving these watches.

Hell, there are kit cars that you can pretend to be a real shelby or lambo or whatever but more often than not, not the same and probably wont ever be without investing buttliads of money into it.

My general rule for going gen is usually manufacture movement with a exhibition caseback to drool over the movement through.

Seeing how good the reps have gotten, maybe one day the reps will be as good as gens in all aspects if not better.

But as of right now, mehhhh not so much
 

timnic54

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True some people will never understand.

There is no significant difference between a TC 16610 and a Rolex 16610

In fact the TC will have had a lot more care and attention put into it

There is no magic. Stainless steel is stainless steel . Rolex don't have fairy dust.

There is no significant difference between an ETA 2836 and a Rolex 3135 in terms of function and finish
One has a free sprung balance, which is in fact no significant advantage in timekeeping terms.

Read what Walt Odets had to say about Rolex movement quality many years ago, nothing has really changed.

Of course there are great watches which would be very difficult to emulate in terms of quality and function by the reppers.

But Rolex is absolutely not one of them IMHO.

http://www.timezone.com/2002/09/16/the-rolex-explorer-ref-14270-part-2/

 
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Maron

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Actually rolex doesn't use regular steel and all parts are hand finished. And common of course there's a difference between 3135 and a standard grade eta let alone an Asian clone. Does a standard grade eta Ruan -1 to +4 in six different positions? If we are talking top grade eta tested in six positions that's a different story. But have you seen a rep with a top grade cosc certified eta 2824?

I mean how about just the difference between setting the time on a rolex or a omega movement versus an eta or especially asian clone. Worlds apart.

I dint even understand how you guys can argue this especially after handling the gen. But I guess it's all subjective. Driving a mercedes might not feel the same to one person as it does the other. Some people can perceive the difference while others do not. That's not a judgement.

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