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Not worth buying in gen

BUVAS

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Sitting down relaxed with the reading glasses on, just having poised the glass with the 25 year old single Malt You take out the gen, slowly wind it and than ceremonially set the date and time. A Pucchini opera is playing in the background, You get soothed by the sense of precision and accuracy, by the reassuring sounds and the perfect machining of everything. Life is good, the gen is perfect and in any moment like this incredibly superior to the rep, 90% superior or more.

Fast forward it´s Monday morning, the reading glasses are off, You´re 5 minutes late - quick-check if the times right - Yes, it is, just slap the watch on your wrist, hurry with the coffee, lock the door, start the car - quick-check time and off into the traffic jam, busy and stress all day, skip the lunch - first quiet moment on the way home, maybe time for a wristie, nice watch, it was a good day after all......
3 hours later You sit at the laptop to post the wristie on rwi and suddenly You realize: Hey, after all it was the rep I was wearing all day, it never occured to me:)
While just using them on the wrist in daily use, for general activities and for telling time - a good rep with a smooth rotor, imho it may well do the same job as the gen, even a 90% close job with the added freedom of movement a $400 watch gives on occasion (compared to the $6000 one).

I´ll add:
- Breitling SO Abyss 42 and 44 (top level as the others already listed)
Slightly below, but close:
- Tudor Blackbay Red
- Omega Seamaster 300 Coax
- Tag Heuer Aquaracer 300, the one with the Ronda quartz

Comedy post!

Rep or gen it's how it fits into your lifestyle.
 

rld14

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I have held several in my hand and owned 2. Yes there is a small difference in finish and some difference in articulation if you have the two side by side. But it is very far from night and day

It's the sharp surfaces that bug the heck out of me... Well, let me clarify. It doesn't bug the heck out of me, but it's a tell. After all, a used gen 15400 is $12K++ and a rep is $300 or so. For 2.5% of the price it's fantastic but I do feel a noticeable difference rep vs gen.
 

timnic54

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It's the sharp surfaces that bug the heck out of me... Well, let me clarify. It doesn't bug the heck out of me, but it's a tell. After all, a used gen 15400 is $12K++ and a rep is $300 or so. For 2.5% of the price it's fantastic but I do feel a noticeable difference rep vs gen.


It would take an hour or two with some micromesh or similar fine diamond paper to remove any sharp edges. First thing I do with any Rep bracelet. Then if it wasn't for the slight difference in articulation you would seriously struggle to tel them apart.
 

mech500

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^practically impossible to refinish Royal Oak bracelet mid-links, without completely dismantling the bracelet and softening the mid-link edges all the way around IMO .....dismantling bracelet will wreck it permanently.

I paid a modder $200 to "refinish" my JF Royal Oak bracelet - came back with a ruined "shine".

Yes, 99.8% of the world's population can't tell the difference between gen and rep JF RO's (side by side) but we (here on RWI) are not ordinary blokes on the street.
 

timnic54

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^practically impossible to refinish Royal Oak bracelet mid-links, without completely dismantling the bracelet and softening the mid-link edges all the way around IMO .....dismantling bracelet will wreck it permanently.

I paid a modder $200 to "refinish" my JF Royal Oak bracelet - came back with a ruined "shine".

Yes, 99.8% of the world's population can't tell the difference between gen and rep JF RO's (side by side) but we (here on RWI) are not ordinary blokes on the street.


Not talking about refinishing. I am talking about removing sharp edges which are accessible and noticeable
 

mech500

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Not talking about refinishing. I am talking about removing sharp edges which are accessible and noticeable

RO bracelet is made up of "segments"

Each segment is connected together by x2 "mid-links".

It's easy to soften sharp edges along the outer edges of the "segments".

Impossible to soften the razor sharp edges of the "mid-link" (all the way around).

Bracelet bends and folds to reveal sharp edges/corners of the mid-links. Not possible to soften mid-link edges all the way around.

A "refinish" will help reduce the "mid-link" sharp edges but will ruin the amazing JF factory shine.


JF RO bracelet made up of "segments" connected by "mid-links"
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Tigerdragon

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Mine hasn't sharp edges? I have the blue V2 Version. Its one of the best bracelets ive ever had. Yes it scratches like hell but looks amazing.
 

mech500

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^ive owned x8 JF ROs (v1, v2 etc).

Bracelet is only "sharp" if you're a connossisour and compare to the perfect hand finished gen.

Obviously the differences between gen and rep are very small but then again the difference between a Picasso and a 8year olds art homework are also small (to the non connoisseur).
 

Tigerdragon

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I thought it is so sharp that you can cut yourself (like the Noob v7 Submariner) thats not at mine and yeah the Gen costs 15k it must be a different there :D

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mech500

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Mine hasn't sharp edges? I have the blue V2 Version. Its one of the best bracelets ive ever had. Yes it scratches like hell but looks amazing.

Look carefully at the edges of the two links that connect the individual bracelet segments. The edges are not rounded/chamfers (all around) and feel a little rough when you run your finger along (and across) the bracelet. Minor point, given the price but the roughness does annoy me and is not possible to fix.
Outer corners/edges of the bracelet segments are also a little sharp (not silly smooth) - this is an easy fix tho.
 

Peter007

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is there an easy fix for the big segments inner edges ? It's the first thing i noticed when my first JF 15400 arrived.
 

timnic54

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is there an easy fix for the big segments inner edges ? It's the first thing i noticed when my first JF 15400 arrived.

You can make some improvement to the worst of it with clever use of tape to mask and careful use of micromesh on the very edge. But as has been said you won't make it completely perfect.
 

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I bought mine with bracelet modded by [MENTION=113334]lolo1972sg[/MENTION], I would say that the work he had done to this watch have removed all sharp edges. It still shines like a disco ball :D
 

EkaSN

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You can make some improvement to the worst of it with clever use of tape to mask and careful use of micromesh on the very edge. But as has been said you won't make it completely perfect.

Hi my friend, as you said before the Cartier Santos is awesome!
Already received mine today, and the strap looks poor, but i can live with that temporary..
1 thing is bothering me, I should pull the crown twice to set the time..Is it normal?
i pull it once, and nothing happens, and i pull it again to second level, and i can set the time..

Thank you in advance..
 

timnic54

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Hi my friend, as you said before the Cartier Santos is awesome!
Already received mine today, and the strap looks poor, but i can live with that temporary..
1 thing is bothering me, I should pull the crown twice to set the time..Is it normal?
i pull it once, and nothing happens, and i pull it again to second level, and i can set the time..

Thank you in advance..

The straps are rubbish. Try timerepublic on ebay They have great straps for that watch

The crown thing; Yes that is normal. The movement is set up to take a date wheel, there is no date wheel on that watch, so at one pull, the crown would be operating the date wheel if one was fitted, instead it does nothing, then second pull operates the time.
 

EkaSN

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The straps are rubbish. Try timerepublic on ebay They have great straps for that watch

The crown thing; Yes that is normal. The movement is set up to take a date wheel, there is no date wheel on that watch, so at one pull, the crown would be operating the date wheel if one was fitted, instead it does nothing, then second pull operates the time.

Thank you so much for the information sir!