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Noob Daytona vs ARF Daytona

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Like I said, I have a good modder. In fact, I have three good modders!

Gen dials are crazy money. BP and ARF are more than good enough. ARF SS bezel is very close as well.

Be interested to know how much the build including modding would end up costing. Arf dial and bezel on a noob would be more than enough for me.
 
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How much it costs an unmodded ARF dial?

Talk to your TD, this is how they look for a 116500 built

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Here now my slimmed down ARF. Just for information - the thickness is now 12,4mm
Removed the Deco-plate with ARF deco rotor and installed a ETA 7750 Rotor instead (also now much more quiet - the noisy rotor spinning is disapeared) and installed a new caseback (JF slim version caseback)

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Anyone have an extra ARF daytona 116500 Crown and Stem they could spare, trade or sell? Need to fit the ARF 4130 Super clone/ a7750.
PM me if you can help me out.
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I have received a ARF v2 116520 which I ordered for parts only. My 2 noob Daytonas, ordered beginning of Sept. have the same status since 9/27: despatch Guangzhou....Do not know what is going on, normally they are in UK 2 days later. Anybody else waiting?

Now since I have the ARF I have used the watch for a week know and here is my feedback. It is a nice watch out of the box. Bracelet feels great, I have done a mix and match with a Noob 316 bracelet and there is no difference in Color. The bezel is almost gen, this is why I ordered the watch. The rehaut engraving is very bad aligned, it is a half tick off. The crown pops out in 2 positions, normal for 7750 but not gen like. The crown is too high, also normal for 7750.
Pusher too long, we all know this. The ARF SEL is not recessed at all but sits nicly in the lugs.

I really like the crystal, it has a light 1xAR on the inside which is great on the black dial. Now when you wear the watch it feels top-heavy. This is due to the wrong caseback. The watch is 13.2 mm thick and wearing a noob with 12.3 mm is a big difference. I changed the caseback to a noob and then it feels totally differrent. The size is only 12.4 mm and now it does not feel top-havy anymore. You can look at the pics and then you know what I mean. You can also shave the ARF caseback down so that the watch is about 12.8 mm. But be careful, when it gets too thin, the rotor noise will be loud. Regarding the noise, when I received the watch I could hear the noise even when the watch was still inside of the package. In my opinion it is necessary to remove the fake bridge and replace the rotor with an ETA rotor. I have not done this on my ARF, I just put the noob caseback on, the rotor doesn‘t move anymore and I need to wind it up. Since it is for parts only, I do not care. On gen Rolex watches you do not hear anything when you shake the watch.

ARF out of the box, 13.2 mm
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ARF with noob caseback
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Top heavy ARF due too caseback
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ARF with noob caseback
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Here now my slimmed down ARF. Just for information - the thickness is now 12,4mm
Removed the Deco-plate with ARF deco rotor and installed a ETA 7750 Rotor instead (also now much more quiet - the noisy rotor spinning is disapeared) and installed a new caseback (JF slim version caseback)

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I tried to do the same but encountered several issues. I posted this in the ARF Daytona thread but no luck so far:

Help needed!

I had ordered a JF 23j caseback a while back as well as a stock 7750 rotor and screw but couldn’t find the time to put it all together till today.

Once the deco plate removed I put back the movement clamps/tabs but no matter how much I tightened them the movement was still a bit lose. As for the rotor (also tightened to the max) while spinning, it would rattle against the movement. After taking it apart and putting it together again the exact same thing still happens. I gave up and put the new caseback on to see the result. Now it completely blocks the rotor and holds the movement securely... So for now the watch has to be manually wound.

Would appreciate any help or suggestions, I have seen many modded ARFs around that don’t seem to have these issues!

Only positive thing: the watch is now 12.61mm versus 13.23 with the old caseback.

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I have received a ARF v2 116520 which I ordered for parts only. My 2 noob Daytonas, ordered beginning of Sept. have the same status since 9/27: despatch Guangzhou....Do not know what is going on, normally they are in UK 2 days later. Anybody else waiting?

Now since I have the ARF I have used the watch for a week know and here is my feedback. It is a nice watch out of the box. Bracelet feels great, I have done a mix and match with a Noob 316 bracelet and there is no difference in Color. The bezel is almost gen, this is why I ordered the watch. The rehaut engraving is very bad aligned, it is a half tick off. The crown pops out in 2 positions, normal for 7750 but not gen like. The crown is too high, also normal for 7750.
Pusher too long, we all know this. The ARF SEL is not recessed at all but sits nicly in the lugs.

I really like the crystal, it has a light 1xAR on the inside which is great on the black dial. Now when you wear the watch it feels top-heavy. This is due to the wrong caseback. The watch is 13.2 mm thick and wearing a noob with 12.3 mm is a big difference. I changed the caseback to a noob and then it feels totally differrent. The size is only 12.4 mm and now it does not feel top-havy anymore. You can look at the pics and then you know what I mean. You can also shave the ARF caseback down so that the watch is about 12.8 mm. But be careful, when it gets too thin, the rotor noise will be loud. Regarding the noise, when I received the watch I could hear the noise even when the watch was still inside of the package. In my opinion it is necessary to remove the fake bridge and replace the rotor with an ETA rotor. I have not done this on my ARF, I just put the noob caseback on, the rotor doesn‘t move anymore and I need to wind it up. Since it is for parts only, I do not care. On gen Rolex watches you do not hear anything when you shake the watch.


Thank you sir for writing such detailed and very helpful Daytona reviews.
 

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Hi i looking for buy 116500 white arf but one thing that i not sure is 7750 movement have lound noise or not as i can see some people say should replace with gen 7750 rotor but i dont know what 7750 rotor look like and where can i get gen 7750
 

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Hi i looking for buy 116500 white arf but one thing that i not sure is 7750 movement have lound noise or not as i can see some people say should replace with gen 7750 rotor but i dont know what 7750 rotor look like and where can i get gen 7750

you can buy in ebay, here is a picture how it should look like.
I have done this with all my ARFs I had, but since noob came out it is not necessary. The movement just sucks big time..lol, Any real eta will do.

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you can buy in ebay, here is a picture how it should look like.
I have done this with all my ARFs I had, but since noob came out it is not necessary. The movement just sucks big time..lol, Any real eta will do.

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@guru
I had several problems with this “simple” mod, could you please check 3 posts up in this thread (post 495 I think). Perhaps you could give me some guidance.
Thanks in advance.


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I have received a ARF v2 116520 which I ordered for parts only. My 2 noob Daytonas, ordered beginning of Sept. have the same status since 9/27: despatch Guangzhou....Do not know what is going on, normally they are in UK 2 days later. Anybody else waiting?

Now since I have the ARF I have used the watch for a week know and here is my feedback. It is a nice watch out of the box. Bracelet feels great, I have done a mix and match with a Noob 316 bracelet and there is no difference in Color. The bezel is almost gen, this is why I ordered the watch. The rehaut engraving is very bad aligned, it is a half tick off. The crown pops out in 2 positions, normal for 7750 but not gen like. The crown is too high, also normal for 7750.
Pusher too long, we all know this. The ARF SEL is not recessed at all but sits nicly in the lugs.

I really like the crystal, it has a light 1xAR on the inside which is great on the black dial. Now when you wear the watch it feels top-heavy. This is due to the wrong caseback. The watch is 13.2 mm thick and wearing a noob with 12.3 mm is a big difference. I changed the caseback to a noob and then it feels totally differrent. The size is only 12.4 mm and now it does not feel top-havy anymore. You can look at the pics and then you know what I mean. You can also shave the ARF caseback down so that the watch is about 12.8 mm. But be careful, when it gets too thin, the rotor noise will be loud. Regarding the noise, when I received the watch I could hear the noise even when the watch was still inside of the package. In my opinion it is necessary to remove the fake bridge and replace the rotor with an ETA rotor. I have not done this on my ARF, I just put the noob caseback on, the rotor doesn‘t move anymore and I need to wind it up. Since it is for parts only, I do not care. On gen Rolex watches you do not hear anything when you shake the watch.

ARF out of the box, 13.2 mm
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ARF with noob caseback
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Top heavy ARF due too caseback
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ARF with noob caseback
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Buddy could u help take a side by side shot of just the case back alone ? it looks like the actual slope angle of the case back is also different. Not just only the bottom part thicker