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No More Time Bombs, VRF just released 1st fully cloned 3186 and 116710LN

GingerBubba

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Even the insert doesn't look too bad without the macro shots. Not brilliant, but passable. A good all round OTB option I reckon.
 

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Even the insert doesn't look too bad without the macro shots. Not brilliant, but passable. A good all round OTB option I reckon.

No. The watch is very good, but insert is shit. Number engraving total wrong. Too thin.
 

GingerBubba

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No. The watch is very good, but insert is shit. Number engraving total wrong. Too thin.

A question of personal tolerance. I've seen Gens where the numbers are a lot fatter, I've seen them where they're more like the rep (though I accept the rep is still too thin) - but many people will accept that difference. Me for example.
 
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A shame about the sel fit , it’s nowhere near the level of arf sadly.


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Nice one mate! And with a genuine bezel assembly (and I assume insert too) you will upgrade one of the few things that don't look spot on. Now on the rehaut finish, I'm not so sure how to smoothen that a little bit but to be fair it's difficult to see in plain sight. The crystal, on the other hand... I would not change it for a genuine, it looks amazing (as many VRF do).

The top of the rehaut (and the side where the engravings are too if you desire) need light hand sanding with 600 grit or so to start. I had a BP Explorer with a sawtooth rehaut ledge. You have to be careful not to take too much off the top because it will lower crystal height but all the high teeth need to come down to the lowest valley. Once its level it can be rebrushed with Scotchbrite to look more normal. It's pretty visible on the wrist, if you know it's there you tend to look for it. The engravings are deep enough that light sanding and rebrushing will not negatively impact them. It takes many hours of sanding to completely get rid of rehaut engraving.
 
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Touch down.

Sadly not staying with me long as it will be heading off to Adrian to have my bezel assembly, and Gen Crystal fitted.




Nice one :)

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Ossenaar87

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Guys i am a bit cunfused, wich one has the improved movement,

1-GMT-Master II 116710 LN Black Ceramic 904L Steel ARF 1:1 Best Edition SH3186 CHS

2-GMT-Master II 116710 LN Black Ceramic 904L Steel VRF 1:1 Best Edition SA3186 CHS

I thought it wos the arf cause ir says stable in the product info about the movement...
 

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Guys i am a bit cunfused, wich one has the improved movement,

1-GMT-Master II 116710 LN Black Ceramic 904L Steel ARF 1:1 Best Edition SH3186 CHS

2-GMT-Master II 116710 LN Black Ceramic 904L Steel VRF 1:1 Best Edition SA3186 CHS

I thought it wos the arf cause ir says stable in the product info about the movement...

They’re both new movements. As for reliability wait and see, they only came out a week ago.
 

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Ah, thanks! That cleared up.

Also never believe the descriptions on td websites (to a certain extent). Things like 1:1 or stable should be taken with a pinch of salt at least until proven on the forums. There are various other threads in the rolex section showing the insides of the two watches, i think the arf has a 3186 clone and the vrf has a 3185.
 

Ossenaar87

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Yeah that is my next move, find out about the movements. So there complete new movement not based on the 3135 or so?
 

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I’m sorry gents! Doing my best to do my due diligence here, however, when referring to the “insert” this is the dial correct? Also, can someone point me in the right direction to buy a gen bezel assembly?


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I’m sorry gents! Doing my best to do my due diligence here, however, when referring to the “insert” this is the dial correct? Also, can someone point me in the right direction to buy a gen bezel assembly?


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No, the dial is the dial.

The insert refers to the bezel insert - ie the ceramic ring that has the silver triangle and the silver 2, 4, 6, 8 etc numbers on it.

There are threads on here with explanations of all watch words/terminology. Or JFGI.
 

AMGwolf

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No, the dial is the dial.

The insert refers to the bezel insert - ie the ceramic ring that has the silver triangle and the silver 2, 4, 6, 8 etc numbers on it.

There are threads on here with explanations of all watch words/terminology. Or JFGI.

Thanks for being so kind to clarify!!! Next time ill JFGI :)
 
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