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PsychoTee16

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Not sure why it wouldn't be super rep status.

The only thing this watch doesn't do is the bidirectional winding and seconds hand reset function. Dial and case are fantastic.

I had the V1 and couldn't really tell the difference.
 

jeevanpillai

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Is bidirectional winding a hard function to add to a movement? I looks to be as simple as a replacement of the rotor clutch. Am I missing something here?

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mysterio

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Is bidirectional winding a hard function to add to a movement? I looks to be as simple as a replacement of the rotor clutch. Am I missing something here?

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Without an in-depth teardown of the movement, we can't really say about how simple or how difficult the conversion from unidirectional to bidirectional winding would be.
 
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d4m.test

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Today recived QC pics too,my first rep watches!Cant wait.:bless:
 

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mysterio

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Got my QC pics today. Would love an expert eye on one potential issue I've spotted as well as a (probably non-existent) minor one.

The first pic looks like there is a scratch on the side of the crown guard.
Second two pics seem to show a mark near the 9 digit. This could very well be a spec of dust so not overly concerned by it, but it's in every pic!

Much appreciated !

http://imgur.com/a/AuExM

The watch is made of ceramic, which is only next to diamond in terms of hardness. That said, I don't see the scratch. Maybe you think the edge of the crown guard is a scratch. As for the other pictures, well it's a speck of dust on the crystal. It's not in the exact same place. Why is it in every picture? Because the ones who take QC pictures don't keep on wiping down the watch.
 

DaniGago

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It will scratch, quite easily if it is like the 438. The case material is hard, but not the coating.

You have to be carefull using it...
I am thinking to jump on it again, because it is a beauty...
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PsychoTee16

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It will scratch, quite easily if it is like the 438. The case material is hard, but not the coating.

You have to be carefull using it...
I am thinking to jump on it again, because it is a beauty...
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Coating?? Do you know what ceramic is?

There isn't a coating. No reason to have a coating if it is truly ceramic. Ceramic is very hard, and one of the only things that will scratch it is a diamond.

Materials that come in contact with it usually leaving something behind, but it isn't a scratch.

I have a PAM292 and have hit it multiple times, and no scratches yet. Only markings that rub off with some elbow grease.
 

mysterio

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Coating?? Do you know what ceramic is?

There isn't a coating. No reason to have a coating if it is truly ceramic. Ceramic is very hard, and one of the only things that will scratch it is a diamond.

Materials that come in contact with it usually leaving something behind, but it isn't a scratch.

I have a PAM292 and have hit it multiple times, and no scratches yet. Only markings that rub off with some elbow grease.

+1 The ceramic does not scratch easily. However other softer materials coming into contact with it will easily leave a "mark" on the ceramic, which is actually a residue of the other material. Simply rub it off. :)
 

kampachi

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+1 The ceramic does not scratch easily. However other softer materials coming into contact with it will easily leave a "mark" on the ceramic, which is actually a residue of the other material. Simply rub it off. :)

Is crown plated or is it pure ceramic? There i was softening the edges with a sandpaper :0


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mysterio

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Is crown plated or is it pure ceramic? There i was softening the edges with a sandpaper :0


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Do you mean the crown or is it the crown guard again? :lol: I remember you asking Grim a page or two back.
 

kampachi

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Do you mean the crown or is it the crown guard again? :lol: I remember you asking Grim a page or two back.
ahh my god hhaha. the crown guard i mean. well, to make things easier which part of the watch is plated and non-ceramic besides the buckle?
 

DaniGago

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Coating?? Do you know what ceramic is?

There isn't a coating. No reason to have a coating if it is truly ceramic. Ceramic is very hard, and one of the only things that will scratch it is a diamond.

Materials that come in contact with it usually leaving something behind, but it isn't a scratch.

I have a PAM292 and have hit it multiple times, and no scratches yet. Only markings that rub off with some elbow grease.
Indeen I know what ceramic is, I am just telling you guys what can happen and what happend to me... and it did happen easily. I really take care about my watches. Somehow they have to match the color of the watch and that is independet of the material I guess... I did not have accidents with diamonds but I have remark on several places... I just call them scratches, by the way, there is nothing to rub away or to clean, the surface ist just damaged for me... a little bit shiny. All remarks looks the same, but I did not colide with the same things, so it is not the other material leaving a remark on it from itself, it is the watch surface which is damaged in my opinion.


I have tried to take a picture but it is difficult.

If anyone has an idea how to make it to disappear, I will try it out...
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mysterio

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The scratches look pretty flat to me, no depth to them. If that was really damaged, then it might potentially start to crack.
 

PsychoTee16

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That last picture actually looks like an indentation.

These watches aren't coated. So they are straight Ceramic. But ceramic is very brittle. So hitting against a surface will cause damage.
 

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IMG_4491.JPG IMG_4492.JPG Comparison of Gen, V1, V2 movements.

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????= Gen

essentially, differences are movement thickness and screws location. all i can say is wow!
 

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