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NEW RELEASE: VSF 3235 -> 3230 Phantom Date Fix Mod

dogwood

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Hello RepFam!

If you own a VSF Oyster Perpetual or a VSF 41mm no-date Submariner, congratulations, you have the best possible movement in your rep. However, when VSF made these reps, they didn't get Dandong to modify the VS3235 into a VS3230... that means that there's a phantom date correction position when you pull out the crown even though there's no date on your watch.

Over that past six months, with the help of @xZeroCoolx I've been working on a mod to fix this issue. After many (MANY) iterations, that mod is finally ready for release.

The mod itself is quite simple: it's a replacement for the stock VS3235 setting lever spring (Rolex Part Number: 3235-231) with a modified version of the part which eliminates the unused date correction wheel (red arrow), and changes the spring lobe geometry to have only two setting lever positions (winding and time setting -- blue arrow) rather than three (winding, date correction, and time setting -- yellow arrow).



These custom "3230" setting lever springs are now available from @xZeroCoolx and myself. The cost of the part is $80 USD plus shipping (although these parts are small and flat so shipping is usually only a dollar or two via letter mail). Thank you to @trailboss99 and @daytona4me for allowing us to make this part available to the RWI community (please move this thread to an appropriate location if here isn't the best place).

If you'd like the mod but don't want to do the swap yourself, then this mod should be available from many of the Trusted Vendors here for around $200 (individual watchmaker prices may vary).

These parts are made in small batches on a fiber laser and are all hand finished, so they are only available in limited quantities for now. If demand is there we might look at alternative production methods like wire EDM.



The mod itself is completely reversible since it's simply swapping out the Dandong part for the Mod part. Please comment below if you have any questions.

All the best,

Dogwood & ZeroCool
 

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I’ve been watching the posts on this and think it’s great. I don’t even have a vsf no date and want one for when I get around to getting one. Definitely put me down for one and let me know when to send you the money. Thanks for doing this for everyone.
 

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I’ve been watching the posts on this and think it’s great. I don’t even have a vsf no date and want one for when I get around to getting one. Definitely put me down for one and let me know when to send you the money. Thanks for doing this for everyone.
DM myself or @xZeroCoolx and we can hook you up.
 

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Super Nice you take time for this!!
It is a huge quality step to remove a date function on this rep..!
 

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I received the part last week and the vsf 124060 that I ordered will be here in a few days. Your mod is gonna make all the difference in the world. Thanks guys
That’s great to hear. Please DM or post if you have any questions about the install.
 

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That’s great to hear. Please DM or post if you have any questions about the install.
Thanks. I’m going to have the watch serviced and get the watchmaker to do the install. I’m also going to have it water proofed if not to 10 bars then at least to hot tub depths. I figure it’s worth the peace of mind. 🧐
 

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Can anybody point me in the right direction for a geniune date wheel or even a good factory one for sub 116610LN, i have a VSF sub but the date wheel little bit off
 

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Can anybody point me in the right direction for a geniune date wheel or even a good factory one for sub 116610LN, i have a VSF sub but the date wheel little bit off
I think you have the wrong thread... but you're new here, so all is forgiven. The place to find gen parts is eBay or Chrono24.
 

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Thanks. I’m going to have the watch serviced and get the watchmaker to do the install. I’m also going to have it water proofed if not to 10 bars then at least to hot tub depths. I figure it’s worth the peace of mind. 🧐
Who will service your watch?
 

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I don’t feel comfortable naming names considering the nature of this stuff.
 

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That’s great to hear. Please DM or post if you have any questions about the install.
Funny how you replicated the part with greater accuracy than the parts the factory replicated. Yours looks identical dimensionally to the rep part, while the rep part isn't that identical. Guess that's the benefit of laser cut.
 
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Doing a little research here because I was considering purchasing the Rolex 114060 Submariner no date 40mm from VSF. I picked this model because I was told VSF corrected the phantom date position. Is that not true?

Also, the gen has a 3130 but VSF uses a 3235?

I'm trying to make sure I didn't get something wrong in my notes. I want all my ducks in a row before I make the purchase. Thanks.
 

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Doing a little research here because I was considering purchasing the Rolex 114060 Submariner no date 40mm from VSF. I picked this model because I was told VSF corrected the phantom date position. Is that not true?

Also, the gen has a 3130 but VSF uses a 3235?

I'm trying to make sure I didn't get something wrong in my notes. I want all my ducks in a row before I make the purchase. Thanks.
11 series uses the VS3130 and has no ghost date position.

12 series use the VS3235 and that has the ghost date position.

This mod removes the ghost date from the VS3235, it is not needed on the VS3130.

VSF makes both the 40 and 41mm so you are good.