Mostly kidding about the date indicator seating plate and bridge but dropping a challenge too; however that 3120 date change mod is DEFINITELY something I’d buy.
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NEW RELEASE: VSF 3235 -> 3230 Phantom Date Fix Mod
- Thread starter dogwood
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I haven’t been approached by any TDs about offering this mod on watches directly from China. For now, the best option is probably to have the watch shipped from TD to modder directly and then have the modder ship it on to you.
- 12/3/18
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What a fabulous project and outcome. Great work guys, WTG sticking with it til you got it right. Love the laser pic - what a way to dazzle us with this ultra cool mod! Brilliant!
Dogwood & ZeroCool
Without the mod any no-date VSF Rolex rep (ie VSF oyster perpetual or VSF no-date 41mm sub) will have a phantom date setting position when you pull out the crown. It’s a very small thing, but it bothered me enough to design and build a mod to fix it. If the phantom date setting position doesn’t bother you, there’s really no need for this mod.
This pic was just shared with me by @xZeroCoolx … the part on the left was discovered in a new VSF oyster perpetual.
Apparently the movement still had “3235” engraved on it. Additionally the date works parts were missing from this movement and two of the five blue screws that secure the date plate were missing.
The watch in which this was discovered was bought from a TD directly from VSF (no third party Chinese modders worked on it)… so this strongly implies that VSF is now modding the vs3235 movements that go in their OPs and no-date 41mm subs. (My gut says this is VSF not Dandong since the engraving remains 3235 and if Dandong was doing this I’d expect it to be done “properly”).
While I’m sure many of you assumed that @xZeroCoolx and I started this project with our eyes on the bountiful riches that every other hobby tinkerer has earned from designing and cottage manufacturing a niche mod for a niche product, you’d be wrong… we did this because we saw a problem and wanted to have a go at fixing it. If VSF is now making OPs and no-date subs without a phantom date correction position, that’s great.
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
And for anybody with a pre-fix VSF OP or 41mm no-date sub — we’ve got your back.
Apparently the movement still had “3235” engraved on it. Additionally the date works parts were missing from this movement and two of the five blue screws that secure the date plate were missing.
The watch in which this was discovered was bought from a TD directly from VSF (no third party Chinese modders worked on it)… so this strongly implies that VSF is now modding the vs3235 movements that go in their OPs and no-date 41mm subs. (My gut says this is VSF not Dandong since the engraving remains 3235 and if Dandong was doing this I’d expect it to be done “properly”).
While I’m sure many of you assumed that @xZeroCoolx and I started this project with our eyes on the bountiful riches that every other hobby tinkerer has earned from designing and cottage manufacturing a niche mod for a niche product, you’d be wrong… we did this because we saw a problem and wanted to have a go at fixing it. If VSF is now making OPs and no-date subs without a phantom date correction position, that’s great.
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
And for anybody with a pre-fix VSF OP or 41mm no-date sub — we’ve got your back.
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I’m still blown away with what you guys accomplished. I purchased one as soon as yall made them available. Y’all’s contributions to the community aren’t unnoticed. We’re very fortunate to have you guys. It’s things like that contribution that makes RWI the community it is.This pic was just shared with me by @xZeroCoolx … the part on the left was discovered in a new VSF oyster perpetual.
Apparently the movement still had “3235” engraved on it. Additionally the date works parts were missing from this movement and two of the five blue screws that secure the date plate were missing.
The watch in which this was discovered was bought from a TD directly from VSF (no third party Chinese modders worked on it)… so this strongly implies that VSF is now modding the vs3235 movements that go in their OPs and no-date 41mm subs. (My gut says this is VSF not Dandong since the engraving remains 3235 and if Dandong was doing this I’d expect it to be done “properly”).
While I’m sure many of you assumed that @xZeroCoolx and I started this project with our eyes on the bountiful riches that every other hobby tinkerer has earned from designing and cottage manufacturing a niche mod for a niche product, you’d be wrong… we did this because we saw a problem and wanted to have a go at fixing it. If VSF is now making OPs and no-date subs without a phantom date correction position, that’s great.
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
And for anybody with a pre-fix VSF OP or 41mm no-date sub — we’ve got your back.
What you guys are doing is awesome! Ever since I realized the phantom date was an issue on the new no dates, I keep looking at different TDs to see if a 124060 will show VS3230 instead of VS3235 but so far, nothing. I would imagine they will want to push old stock first so y'all should be able to sell a number of these fixes before VSF catches up.This pic was just shared with me by @xZeroCoolx … the part on the left was discovered in a new VSF oyster perpetual.
Apparently the movement still had “3235” engraved on it. Additionally the date works parts were missing from this movement and two of the five blue screws that secure the date plate were missing.
The watch in which this was discovered was bought from a TD directly from VSF (no third party Chinese modders worked on it)… so this strongly implies that VSF is now modding the vs3235 movements that go in their OPs and no-date 41mm subs. (My gut says this is VSF not Dandong since the engraving remains 3235 and if Dandong was doing this I’d expect it to be done “properly”).
While I’m sure many of you assumed that @xZeroCoolx and I started this project with our eyes on the bountiful riches that every other hobby tinkerer has earned from designing and cottage manufacturing a niche mod for a niche product, you’d be wrong… we did this because we saw a problem and wanted to have a go at fixing it. If VSF is now making OPs and no-date subs without a phantom date correction position, that’s great.
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
And for anybody with a pre-fix VSF OP or 41mm no-date sub — we’ve got your back.
Thanks @dogwood & @xZeroCoolx for your contribution to the RWI community.
Btw, does anyone have updates if VSF is already producing and releasing new batches of 124060 without the phantom date issue?
Looking to order one unit for myself.
Btw, does anyone have updates if VSF is already producing and releasing new batches of 124060 without the phantom date issue?
Looking to order one unit for myself.
Yes, VSF apparently released a new version of the 124060 today. Andrew from Trusty Time has posted about it:
New VS3230 Rolex Caliber Movement Release
Dear fellow RWI members and friends Here is the latest VS 3230 Rolex Caliber movement (No Date) You can also browse on our website for the New Release : Submariner 124060 No Date 904 from VSF Factory with the new VS 3230 Caliber...
forum.replica-watch.info
@dogwood what size hand setter size did you use? I'm always leery about choosing a size as a newcomer to watch modding.
Thank you for this thread and your contribution to this community! Same to @xZeroCoolx!
Thank you for this thread and your contribution to this community! Same to @xZeroCoolx!
I use this tool from AliExpress. I'm not sure exactly what the pusher sizes are.
That thing is fancy! I actually saw that one Adding to cart! Thank you!
PS - are there any date mods currently available?
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Are you asking if there are any phantom date mod parts currently available? Yes there are. Both @xZeroCoolx and I have stock on hand.