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New patek philippe nautilus from ppf
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Warning, this one is only for the experts here: who can spot then gen?
https://i.ibb.co/X861p6C/60-BEC0-EB-90-D2-46-AC-BF3-A-23-DBAEBED530.jpg
Left gen right rep?
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Also the right has the logo placard that reps haven't duplicated yet, so thats the gen.
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Given this is a pic from a jeweler on Instagram, don't know how legitimate the jeweler is, but I would say both gen, just one on the right is the new boxed logo dial
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I would likely agree...the crown are good and well inset on both...not protruding...dw window looks good on left...hard to tell
Warning, this one is only for the experts here: who can spot then gen?
https://i.ibb.co/X861p6C/60-BEC0-EB-90-D2-46-AC-BF3-A-23-DBAEBED530.jpg
Based on the blue colour of the dial, I would say both are gen. The one on the left is the old dial, whereas the one on the right is the updated dial, the latest dial after 2018 looks dark blue.
No expert here but believe this is a trick question. Either both gen which was my first thought, but after reading other peoples posts then possibly both reps. DW don't look spot on the left.
Crazy that there is so much knowledge here and we still are not 100% sure. That's how good these reps are.
They are not dh gate quality any more.
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Crazy that there is so much knowledge here and we still are not 100% sure. That's how good these reps are.
They are not dh gate quality any more.
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This is just for fun.. But to be frankly. REP is great now.
On the Left is REP but might have dial changed
1. All marker is quite round compare to other rep which is like a sharp box
2. Swiss is ??
3. V shape on the crown guard
4. date font is not center a little deep on the top
5. watch case that connect to endlink Gen has some brush not sharp as attach picture
On the Left is REP but might have dial changed
1. All marker is quite round compare to other rep which is like a sharp box
2. Swiss is ??
3. V shape on the crown guard
4. date font is not center a little deep on the top
5. watch case that connect to endlink Gen has some brush not sharp as attach picture
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Is not about which td u get. Is all about how lucky u can get one perfect. Any td also can get this
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I’m pretty sure he’s from China. =] he’s using Google translator. =] hahaha really joke. Must be some sour factory =] hahaha
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And their we go, reps are awesome these days.Well done, both are supposed to be gen
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Just shows us how difficult it is to distinguish between different gen batches and reps. I take this a big heads up and that we shouldn't take every detail that seriously. Even at the Patek factory the watches tend to come out differently, from dial color to font thickness: there's all types of variations.
Lol I knew almost everyone will get it wrong, the reason is most of the people here judge whether a watch is gen or rep are based on their past assumption on a photo or what you were told by other people. Crown is protruding too much, datewheel is misaligned to the left, The marker on 12 o’clock is not aligned, the watch is thicker. These are actually not the valid reason to point out whether a watch is genuine, and in real life it’s almost impossible to tell.
And to be honest, the real flaw has to be the blue dial on the rep, they are off, i mean it’s way off. I own 2 pf with date wheel mod(one got seized when I sent back to China), mks v5, early V6F. If you have seen a gen in real life, you will know the blue shines so much differently. From my real experience, one of my friends who has a few patek was asking why my blue looks so different than the one he owns and sold, it looks way off, but off course he doesn’t know much about replicas, he was just questioning. And I completely agree with him, you can fool people who knows about nautilus with pf/mks blue dial, but not the people who has owned or seen it before.
However, the chances of meeting those people who knows about the flaws or have owned or have seen a real patek are quite low, so don’t worry too much. The problem is I’m living in a city where majority of people own luxury timepieces, so I rarely wear them now after knowing all the flaws. Occasionally, I do wear it in some high end events or venues, since no one would expect you to wear a replica in there.
But that latest ppf, I just bought it instantly. There’s absolutely no way for other people to tell whether it’s rep or gen just by looking at it. I saw the gen few weeks ago on my friend’s wrist, it looks better in person than photos, and ppf looks scarily close. Like would you call someone out because their datewheel is too thin lol? Everything looks perfect to me, the crown might be protruding a little bit or datewheel is too thin, but in real life.... even I can’t tell.
And to be honest, the real flaw has to be the blue dial on the rep, they are off, i mean it’s way off. I own 2 pf with date wheel mod(one got seized when I sent back to China), mks v5, early V6F. If you have seen a gen in real life, you will know the blue shines so much differently. From my real experience, one of my friends who has a few patek was asking why my blue looks so different than the one he owns and sold, it looks way off, but off course he doesn’t know much about replicas, he was just questioning. And I completely agree with him, you can fool people who knows about nautilus with pf/mks blue dial, but not the people who has owned or seen it before.
However, the chances of meeting those people who knows about the flaws or have owned or have seen a real patek are quite low, so don’t worry too much. The problem is I’m living in a city where majority of people own luxury timepieces, so I rarely wear them now after knowing all the flaws. Occasionally, I do wear it in some high end events or venues, since no one would expect you to wear a replica in there.
But that latest ppf, I just bought it instantly. There’s absolutely no way for other people to tell whether it’s rep or gen just by looking at it. I saw the gen few weeks ago on my friend’s wrist, it looks better in person than photos, and ppf looks scarily close. Like would you call someone out because their datewheel is too thin lol? Everything looks perfect to me, the crown might be protruding a little bit or datewheel is too thin, but in real life.... even I can’t tell.
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Thank you for posting that image !
It just show, as you well said, how useless it is to nitpick over detail :
1- Those claiming to see flaws in the rep aren't even able to spot a gen if you don't tell them it's a gen or are able to imagine flaws in the gen when it's all a matter of how the pic is taken
2- That even the gen aren't consistent in their production and color
Thanks again !