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My perfect franken Patek 5711 Nautilus build

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Wacht said:
Alright, I see! I'll try source a PPF dial and perhaps Buff hands then. Thanks for your input.
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Buff dial should be compared with the latest 5711 box version. It looks very nice to me compared to the PPF. I own both and will definitely mount the hands and dial buff on my 5711 3KF. I find the PPF dial off, poor and with too square indexes.
 
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Mark1937 said:
Buff dial should be compared with the latest 5711 box version. It looks very nice to me compared to the PPF. I own both and will definitely mount the hands and dial buff on my 5711 3KF. I find the PPF dial off, poor and with too square indexes.
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Same here, but like OP wrote above, the Quality might not be as consistent as ppt and you can certainly get a good one but also an over rounded edges markers ....
 
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Wacht said:
Thanks, is ODM a modder? Do you know what parts ODM uses, and do they sell fully modded watches?
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Afaik ODM is a Chinese modder but unfortunately idk their contact data. You might ask TDs about their services.
 
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So, this is my perfect 5711 build

I’ve been refining my collection over the last year, and I wanted to do something special with the few reps I have left.

I absolutely love the 5711 and I was on the list before they got discontinued. Paying retail for one, no problem, paying around 200.000 for one, not going to happen.

With that in mind, I wanted to do a build that I knew I would enjoy wearing, without any compromises.

I’ve had the PF/PPF hybrid, and it just didn’t do it for me. The dimension of the bezel was wrong (Although the best stock option at the moment) and the overall quality and craftmanship of the watch just didn’t satisfy me.

We did a build based on the current 3KF, mainly because the case/bezel dimensions are the best base to achieve a gen looking result. Secondly, I wanted a clone movement. This was a VERY time consuming and tough build, because we basically had to reshape every single surface of the case/bezel, and the biggest challenge was no doubt to get the bezel dimension 100 % correct.

Here is the build breakdown:

CASE/BEZEL: As stated above, this was the most important for me to get right. The PF bezel is not quite there, and the PPF bezel is to fat. The current 3KF is the only option imo if you want to achieve a gen look. The entire bezel was reshaped, and several rounds of lapping to get the final result that I was happy with. The bevels where corrected/cut on all areas where needed.

CROWN: We corrected the length and shape. (Its nowhere as bad as the PPF, but still needs some work)

BRACELET: The backside was smoothed out for comfort, and the bevels where refinished. The lack of gap between the fist link and case was corrected.

DIAL: We got a hold of every current possible dial there is, to do a comparison. 3KF is the worst, and where never considered, BUFF has a horrible overdone sunburst effect, and looked very cheap. They did put in some work on the markers, but they are to rounded. PPF v4 is imo the best by far, but it needs work on the makers, to even out the square look. I’m well aware there is variations in gen, but only to a certain level. We had 2 different gen unboxed dials to compare with. My recommendation for a rep dial is PPF, with the hour makers reshaped and a white gold treatment. In the end we of course went with the gen dial. FUN FACT, the 3kf movement is not gen spec, so the dial feet had to be cut to accommodate the gen dial.

HANDS: Again, we had all the current hands available, and the choice was easy. BUFF by far was the best, both in quality and by having the correct dimensions. We still did a refinish on the hands, to get rid of the rough edges. And the hands got a white gold treatment/plating to match the hour makers on the gen dial. The hands where then relumed to match the gen dial. (That took us 3 tries). We ended up with a result, where gen hands wouldn’t make sense.

DATEWHEEL: Stock 3KF is a joke and went straight in the trash. We were originally going with BUFF and got 3 of them. 2 of them where so bad quality that they were unusable, and the last one was no price either. The print quality is just horrible, it’s not white it’s a weird gray color, a lot of the numbers are misaligned, and the result would never have been satisfactory. We got a couple of the Keylog date wheels, and the print quality is really good, however the font is slightly too small/thin and the 11 is looking kind of strange. This is nitpicking, I know, but with all the work being put into this build, I couldn’t live with the result, so we ended up buying a gen blistered date wheel.

MOVEMENT: The movement had a service, and just for fun, we beveled the different parts, to make it a bit prettier.

This was a very time consuming and LONG build, but I’m extremely happy with the result, and I think we achieved something truly unique with this build. All I know is, I absolutely love it.

Thanks for reading, and no, its not for sale
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amazing read. Very informative. Beautiful build. Thanks for sharing
 
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What’s the difference between the movement of gen vs 3kf visually ? Any pics of the gen vs 3kf movement side by side? Would be great if someone can share pics and info, thanks

also on a separate note how reliable is this clone movement of 3kf?
 
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Kmmas said:
What’s the difference between the movement of gen vs 3kf visually ? Any pics of the gen vs 3kf movement side by side? Would be great if someone can share pics and info, thanks

also on a separate note how reliable is this clone movement of 3kf?
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Besides from not being gen spec (There are variations in the measurements) Its mostly finishing, real gold rotor, and of course the extra adjustment lever on the rep. You will never fool someone that know Pateks, with a clone movement :)

Have a look at Pateks page and one of the TD, you can do you own comparison.

Have the movement serviced, and it should run fine. Be careful with winding, the stems are very fragile on the 3kf
 
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2841 said:
Besides from not being gen spec (There are variations in the measurements) Its mostly finishing, real gold rotor, and of course the extra adjustment lever on the rep. You will never fool someone that know Pateks, with a clone movement :)

Have a look at Pateks page and one of the TD, you can do you own comparison.

Have the movement serviced, and it should run fine. Be careful with winding, the stems are very fragile on the 3kf
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How big is the difference with the OEM Patek rotor compared to the 3K one? I have a legend modded 3K 5167 arriving later today, and I have been debating the 18K rotor and an OEM strap.

Thanks.
 
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How big is the difference with the OEM Patek rotor compared to the 3K one? I have a legend modded 3K 5167 arriving later today, and I have been debating the 18K rotor and an OEM strap.

Thanks.
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I think there is one for sale on m2m where you can see the difference
 
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Fantastic work! It looks amazing. Congratulations!!
 
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Absolutely great. If I may ask, did you consider the AMF build? If no, why not?
 
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