JLF "Tribute" Reverso Releasing Soon - Looks Promising

[dogwood]

I am very new to this forum. How do i buy it?

@eBoy

 

[Thewatchwolf]

I had a Gen reverso. This rep looks amazing.

 

[Faisalapu]

What are the processes? Which one is closest to original.

 

[vanwolff]

Intime just let me know, that they can't source this piece.
Jtime is not aware of this models existence and is trying hard to push me for the fat MGF duoface.
Marie from Puretime is currently checking the sourceability of this piece.

Really looks promising! I hope it's not a domestic release like the ZF Reverso, which was sold in China on a strictly limited quantity.
Fingers crossed.

Just received feedback from Chazingtime.

They don't source these Reversos, because they are from a lower quality maker and apparrantly of questionable quality. They sent out QC to 1-2 buyers recently and had major issues with build tolerances between case and carriage.

Check the alignment of cases and carriages per the opening post.... Indeed some look misaligned in default position, although the ball bearings should keep the watch cases firmly centered within the carriages.

 

[zinduna]

Honestly, looks great. Worth taking a flyer on!

 

[Reaps]

We need a guinea pig!!! If not I'll bige guinea pig it in a few weeks

 

[jaspaghetti]

For me, I want closer inspection of how the flipping mechanism works, whether it's similar to gen or not! it's the most important part of the replica for me! Need someone to buy it and disassemble.

Message cindy on dhgate for clips and she'll send them over. It looks good.

 

[pam63C]

Just received feedback from Chazingtime.

They don't source these Reversos, because they are from a lower quality maker and apparrantly of questionable quality. They sent out QC to 1-2 buyers recently and had major issues with build tolerances between case and carriage.

Check the alignment of cases and carriages per the opening post.... Indeed some look misaligned in default position, although the ball bearings should keep the watch cases firmly centered within the carriages.

If it is just the tolerances between case and carriage but the watch is firmly centered within the case/carriage, I can live with it. Anyway, I don't play polo and no reason to flip the monoface down.

Biggest worry is the mechanical winding movement but there is no way to assess it until I can get one and have my watchmaker opened it up.

 

[jaspaghetti]

Have got these through from cindywatch - looks good please delete if not allowed. Just waiting on a timegrapher video.

 

[dogwood]

I’m curious to know what movement these have inside… please post your timegrapher results @jaspaghetti

 

[dogwood]

Any word on the lug spacing of these reversos?

 

[pam63C]

Not clear so far. This thread says JLF (never heard of), Reptime thread says AZF, Cindy says MGF (who make the thick Duoface that's been available for ages).

TOW just reverted that this is a new release from the factory ANF (well, never heard of before) but it does not have any detail nor prior QA picture to share. However it can be ordered now.

Anyone has been given QA pictures or has one on hand ?

 

[DougServo]

Following this - been wanting one of these forever and this rep looks very very tempting. Can't wait for people to get them in hands for more formal reviews.

 

[jaspaghetti]

Mine just arrived. Here are my thoughts.

Overall very happy. The dial seems very accurate. The caseback is similarly very accurate to gen - highly polished and no screw backs like the previous reps.

Seemingly nice hand wound movement (albeit quite loud) but we shall see how this stands up to the test of time.

Wears a bit larger than I thought - presumably as (unlike the gen) this rep doesn’t have the sloped edges on the top and bottom of the case that allow it to contour the wrist - instead it’s completely flat.

Drawbacks: the flipping of the case. I’ve tried my best to show this in the videos but the watch case itself stays firmly in place during normal wear, but on a small amount of pressure wiggles slightly within the “carriage” (I think that’s the term). Not really a massive issue but considering this wasn’t an issue at all on the previous much cheaper and lower grade rep (the one with the screws on the caseback that was around 150 USD - half the price of this rep) I don’t see why it has to be on this one - maybe something technical to do with the movement and the casing etc - I’m not sure - but that’s just how it is.

Similarly I’ve only had it a few hours and already have a few (very minor) scratches on the caseback just from flipping it a few times very carefully - definitely a bit of a design flaw.

Overall very happy but perhaps the price is a bit steep with a few issues that will hopefully be fixed if they update the rep in the future.



Regards to how it compares to the gen:

Pretty close but definitely not perfect.
Slightly thicker.
The case doesn’t bending at the top and bottom to contour the wrist which does make it appear bigger.
The crown is too big and doesn’t recess in to the case.
Slight inaccuracies on the thickness variations on the dial indices in the inner square.
The model number on the caseback is for a duoface not the monoface.
Kind of annoying as I don’t see how the above would be difficult for a factory to get right but obviously I don’t make watches for a living so maybe there are technical prohibitions. I reckon if it had been quartz it could’ve been thinner and cheaper which I’d personally prefer. But I get some people value the hand wound movement.

https://streamable.com/qp98b9

https://streamable.com/8vo0kr

 

[jaspaghetti]

Mine just arrived. Here are my thoughts.

Overall very happy. The dial seems very accurate. The caseback is similarly very accurate to gen - highly polished and no screw backs like the previous reps.

Seemingly nice hand wound movement (albeit quite loud) but we shall see how this stands up to the test of time.

Wears a bit larger than I thought - presumably as (unlike the gen) this rep doesn’t have the sloped edges on the top and bottom of the case that allow it to contour the wrist - instead it’s completely flat.

Drawbacks: the flipping of the case. I’ve tried my best to show this in the videos but the watch case itself stays firmly in place during normal wear, but on a small amount of pressure wiggles slightly within the “carriage” (I think that’s the term). Not really a massive issue but considering this wasn’t an issue at all on the previous much cheaper and lower grade rep (the one with the screws on the caseback that was around 150 USD - half the price of this rep) I don’t see why it has to be on this one - maybe something technical to do with the movement and the casing etc - I’m not sure - but that’s just how it is.

Similarly I’ve only had it a few hours and already have a few (very minor) scratches on the caseback just from flipping it a few times very carefully - definitely a bit of a design flaw.

Overall very happy but perhaps the price is a bit steep with a few issues that will hopefully be fixed if they update the rep in the future.



Regards to how it compares to the gen:

Pretty close but definitely not perfect.
Slightly thicker.
The case doesn’t bending at the top and bottom to contour the wrist which does make it appear bigger.
The crown is too big and doesn’t recess in to the case.
Slight inaccuracies on the thickness variations on the dial indices in the inner square.
The model number on the caseback is for a duoface not the monoface.
Kind of annoying as I don’t see how the above would be difficult for a factory to get right but obviously I don’t make watches for a living so maybe there are technical prohibitions. I reckon if it had been quartz it could’ve been thinner and cheaper which I’d personally prefer. But I get some people value the hand wound movement.

https://streamable.com/qp98b9

https://streamable.com/8vo0kr

https://streamable.com/d9hqnt - Some footage of the reversing action.

 

[pam63C]

Mine just arrived. Here are my thoughts.

Overall very happy. The dial seems very accurate. The caseback is similarly very accurate to gen - highly polished and no screw backs like the previous reps.

Seemingly nice hand wound movement (albeit quite loud) but we shall see how this stands up to the test of time.

Wears a bit larger than I thought - presumably as (unlike the gen) this rep doesn’t have the sloped edges on the top and bottom of the case that allow it to contour the wrist - instead it’s completely flat.

Drawbacks: the flipping of the case. I’ve tried my best to show this in the videos but the watch case itself stays firmly in place during normal wear, but on a small amount of pressure wiggles slightly within the “carriage” (I think that’s the term). Not really a massive issue but considering this wasn’t an issue at all on the previous much cheaper and lower grade rep (the one with the screws on the caseback that was around 150 USD - half the price of this rep) I don’t see why it has to be on this one - maybe something technical to do with the movement and the casing etc - I’m not sure - but that’s just how it is.

Similarly I’ve only had it a few hours and already have a few (very minor) scratches on the caseback just from flipping it a few times very carefully - definitely a bit of a design flaw.

Overall very happy but perhaps the price is a bit steep with a few issues that will hopefully be fixed if they update the rep in the future.



Regards to how it compares to the gen:

Pretty close but definitely not perfect.
Slightly thicker.
The case doesn’t bending at the top and bottom to contour the wrist which does make it appear bigger.
The crown is too big and doesn’t recess in to the case.
Slight inaccuracies on the thickness variations on the dial indices in the inner square.
The model number on the caseback is for a duoface not the monoface.
Kind of annoying as I don’t see how the above would be difficult for a factory to get right but obviously I don’t make watches for a living so maybe there are technical prohibitions. I reckon if it had been quartz it could’ve been thinner and cheaper which I’d personally prefer. But I get some people value the hand wound movement.

https://streamable.com/qp98b9

https://streamable.com/8vo0kr

Thanks for the review and for being the first to post such.

Yours is the classic monoface small seconds, is the dimension gen-like ? The gen being 45.6 x 27.4 mm. and about 9mm thick.

As you correctly pointed out, the major tell is the thick crown which does not recess into the case.

I hope the Tribute monoface will be a better rep. From the pictures, it seems that the case is recessed for the crown although the crown is also too thick.

 

[Fabian.]

Thank you!
Does the watchcase losen itself if worn?
Or does the wiggling only occur when moving the case by hand?

 

[vanwolff]

Still no word from Puretime, Intime and Chazingtime about the sourceabilty of this piece...

Is there any TD having this watch available? I would prefer to avoid buying from a non-TD (and also don't recommend on doing so).

 

[Karbon74]

Mine just arrived. Here are my thoughts.

Overall very happy. The dial seems very accurate. The caseback is similarly very accurate to gen - highly polished and no screw backs like the previous reps.

Seemingly nice hand wound movement (albeit quite loud) but we shall see how this stands up to the test of time.

Wears a bit larger than I thought - presumably as (unlike the gen) this rep doesn’t have the sloped edges on the top and bottom of the case that allow it to contour the wrist - instead it’s completely flat.

Drawbacks: the flipping of the case. I’ve tried my best to show this in the videos but the watch case itself stays firmly in place during normal wear, but on a small amount of pressure wiggles slightly within the “carriage” (I think that’s the term). Not really a massive issue but considering this wasn’t an issue at all on the previous much cheaper and lower grade rep (the one with the screws on the caseback that was around 150 USD - half the price of this rep) I don’t see why it has to be on this one - maybe something technical to do with the movement and the casing etc - I’m not sure - but that’s just how it is.

Similarly I’ve only had it a few hours and already have a few (very minor) scratches on the caseback just from flipping it a few times very carefully - definitely a bit of a design flaw.

Overall very happy but perhaps the price is a bit steep with a few issues that will hopefully be fixed if they update the rep in the future.



Regards to how it compares to the gen:

Pretty close but definitely not perfect.
Slightly thicker.
The case doesn’t bending at the top and bottom to contour the wrist which does make it appear bigger.
The crown is too big and doesn’t recess in to the case.
Slight inaccuracies on the thickness variations on the dial indices in the inner square.
The model number on the caseback is for a duoface not the monoface.
Kind of annoying as I don’t see how the above would be difficult for a factory to get right but obviously I don’t make watches for a living so maybe there are technical prohibitions. I reckon if it had been quartz it could’ve been thinner and cheaper which I’d personally prefer. But I get some people value the hand wound movement.

https://streamable.com/qp98b9

https://streamable.com/8vo0kr

thanks for this awesome review

For me, it’s still a bit off for my trigger point. it looks a bit blocky and it’s too big. The sense of timeless elegance is lost

 

[jaspaghetti]

Thanks for the review and for being the first to post such.

Yours is the classic monoface small seconds, is the dimension gen-like ? The gen being 45.6 x 27.4 mm. and about 9mm thick.

As you correctly pointed out, the major tell is the thick crown which does not recess into the case.

I hope the Tribute monoface will be a better rep. From the pictures, it seems that the case is recessed for the crown although the crown is also too thick.

Measurements on this rep are - 46.5mm x 28.5mm and 8.9mm thick. Just a little bit big.

Also have a tribute monoface in rose gold with white dial on the way - I suspect its the same case just in gold and a different dial - that's what my QC pic suggested but we shall see.