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How to Repair VSF 126610 Submariner Bezel / Hytrel Ring - Long Term!

Zeta7

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not a bad solution, honestly. i'm actually not sure why but using a replacement Hytrel ring was seemingly more difficult to get right than the fishing wire. I'm annoyed that i spent like 20 dollars and waited 3 weeks for the damn thing to show up from china and then immediately wrecked it. if I could find a source of replacement rings that was cheaper and could get to me in under two weeks, i'd be tempted to buy a bunch just to try and get this thing replaced with the real deal, but that doesn't seem to be the case, so fishing line will have to do for now
I like the idea of the fishing line. Whatever works. However my advice is don’t pull the bezel off. It makes better sense to pay a professional to do the work they enjoy than to waste time and money only to fail. Just my humble opinion
 

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So much respect for you guys and the patience you put into this! So, I popped the bezel off my 116610LN Blaken, and now I can't put it back on. I do not know where the nylon (plastic) gasket is supposed to go on the bezel. It's too big for the silver groove (see photos) but it seems to fit just nice into this little slot next to the 'teeth'. Can you guys advise me if I am getting it correct? With this, I still can't fit the bezel on, so I think it is wrong. Thanks in advance!

 

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So much respect for you guys and the patience you put into this! So, I popped the bezel off my 116610LN Blaken, and now I can't put it back on. I do not know where the nylon (plastic) gasket is supposed to go on the bezel. It's too big for the silver groove (see photos) but it seems to fit just nice into this little slot next to the 'teeth'. Can you guys advise me if I am getting it correct? With this, I still can't fit the bezel on, so I think it is wrong. Thanks in advance!

Looks like your gasket is in the correct position, from what I remember when I removed mine.
If you have a press and are very careful (plus you might need to modify your die to accommodate the cyclops), you can use that to push it in.
In my case, I didn't need a press or die. I pushed the bezel in while rotating the bezel on the case and it slid in (I watched a video where someone else did that). Worked perfectly for me. I tried pulling it out with my fingers too and it didn't budge.
Link to video I watched
 

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Looks like your gasket is in the correct position, from what I remember when I removed mine.
If you have a press and are very careful (plus you might need to modify your die to accommodate the cyclops), you can use that to push it in.
In my case, I didn't need a press or die. I pushed the bezel in while rotating the bezel on the case and it slid in (I watched a video where someone else did that). Worked perfectly for me. I tried pulling it out with my fingers too and it didn't budge.
Link to video I watched
Oh my goodness this works! With your assurance that the gasket is in the correct position, I went for it. Took a lot of strength and some rotation but it finally snapped back in. Thank you, I appreciate the advice!
 
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Oh my goodness this works! With your assurance that the gasket is in the correct position, I went for it. Took a lot of strength and some rotation but it finally snapped back in. Thank you, I appreciate the advice!
Piece of cake. Do you see the springs with the ball bearings? Try not to lose any of those things. They’re a hard to find
 
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Oh my goodness this works! With your assurance that the gasket is in the correct position, I went for it. Took a lot of strength and some rotation but it finally snapped back in. Thank you, I appreciate the advice!
You're welcome! I was in the same boat as you, before I watched that video. Many comments had me worrying that is crack the ceramic insert and stuff. Luckily, it worked out fine for me. And I'm glad it worked out fine for you as well!
 

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I got the same frickin' problem as you below, but it doesn't bother me much. As to answer your question, maybe you had debris came inside when you tried to reassemble, causing it to be harder to click? Not sure.

Hello community,

My VSF Starbucks has some bezel play.
Please see the gif for reference.
Does anybody know how to fix this?
Thank you RWI!


 

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I checke for debris but also it is really hard. Almost not movable at all…
It goes off much more easily than the first time. Could that be connected to the issue?
 

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I checke for debris but also it is really hard. Almost not movable at all…
It goes off much more easily than the first time. Could that be connected to the issue?
I would try to see if the balls and the springs are good, maybe try swapping balls and springs in different places ?
 

Guglhupfer

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One ball was actually bended from the spring 90 degrees. I bended it back and changed positions but still the same.
The hyrtle goes in the lowest cutout and the L hurtle is not up side down. Is this correct?
When I removed the bezel the first time it was stuck in the watch. Now when I take it off it is always on the bezel.
Does that help identifying the problem?
Thanks all!
 
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One ball was actually bended from the spring 90 degrees. I bended it back and changed positions but still the same.
The hyrtle goes in the lowest cutout and the L hurtle is not up side down. Is this correct?
When I removed the bezel the first time it was stuck in the watch. Now when I take it off it is always on the bezel.
Does that help identifying the problem?
Thanks all!
I'm out of ideas! Good luck, hope you solve it soon.
 

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Hey everybody,

I had this issue: https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/vsf-submariner-bezel-play.10985946/#post-11843985

I removed the bezel and wanted to check it out what i could do to minimze the play.
Removal and also assembly was no issue.
But after assembly the bezel turn is extremely hard. I would even say it is stuck.
Does anybody have an idea what the issue could be?
Does the hytrel ring have any kinks in it? If so, I would work out the kinks as best you can and repress onto the watch. Make sure you lubricate the hytrel ring before you repress (very important!). Also, I find it is very helpful to slowly spin the bezel clockwise as you press it onto the watch. This helps prevent the hytrel ring from getting caught on the crystal retaining ring...which can create a kink in the hytrel ring and make it very hard to turn the bezel.
 
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Thanks for working through this with me.
Just to confirm again: the hytrel is ihn the bezel side right?
What could I use to lubricate it? I do not have any watchmaker oils or lubricants unfortunately. Any household goods I could use?

The Hytrel looks good. No kinks which I could see.

I am pretty sure the bezel does not completely pop on. So I assume the hytrel does not properly go under the step on the case…

Once I have a suggestion for lubrication I will try this.
Thanks!
 

KillerD

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Does the hytrel ring have any kinks in it? If so, I would work out the kinks as best you can and repress onto the watch. Make sure you lubricate the hytrel ring before you repress (very important!). Also, I find it is very helpful to slowly spin the bezel clockwise as you press it onto the watch. This helps prevent the hytrel ring from getting caught on the crystal retaining ring...which can create a kink in the hytrel ring and make it very hard to turn the bezel.
Will a YoYo ball bearing lubricant work?
 

Guglhupfer

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I think i have damaged the Hytrel. When I turned the bezel I think it cut of some of the material. But the problem is really that I cannot get it deep enough.
The deeper i pressed it the easier the turning was. Maybe the lubricant really helps. Also apparently I should greese the clickspring and the parts, too.

And I believe I understand why I have that play in the bezel. The Clickspring simply has some play. A new clickspring should fix this.
 

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Any idea who in the US could solve this issue and potentially also optimize the bezel play? Thank all for the help