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Have I been scammed by an RWI member? [ISSUE RESOLVED]
- Thread starter Master Of The Universe
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- 21/2/09
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I have the sneaking suspicion Thinkbachs has been sniffing glue. But that of course is a totally unsubstantiated rumor. 
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TO ALL: I have been informed from "ahw676" of the situation at hand. I appreciate the intel on this and I am of course simply taking this in stride as of now. My communications with 05tbowner up until 01-21-2012 were perfect and consistent on both sides. No need to jump the gun right now.
TO: 05tbowner, I do not wish to call you out as a scammer. That was never my intention. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt. No need for you to place your email here. That can and will only lead to possible SPAM.
If you wish to contact me, my Paypal payment addy is an alternate way to do as such. As of right now, I will await the delivery of said plaque, inform the boards of delivery, and of course leave you feedback accordingly.
Crap happens to the best of us. I am keeping an open mind about this whole debacle, and anxiously awaiting a positive outcome for everyone involved.
TO: 05tbowner, I do not wish to call you out as a scammer. That was never my intention. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt. No need for you to place your email here. That can and will only lead to possible SPAM.
If you wish to contact me, my Paypal payment addy is an alternate way to do as such. As of right now, I will await the delivery of said plaque, inform the boards of delivery, and of course leave you feedback accordingly.
Crap happens to the best of us. I am keeping an open mind about this whole debacle, and anxiously awaiting a positive outcome for everyone involved.
You called him out as a scammer as soon as you started this thread! Let's see what happens and let's wait for the apology that follows.
You made a serious accusation here.
05 will come good.
- 29/3/09
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I have the sneaking suspicion Thinkbachs has been sniffing glue. But that of course is a totally unsubstantiated rumor.
Hold on......let me move the public thread on that......ok its moved. Now he can speculate on another conspiracy..:lol:
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Uh, actually not really, and I'm sorry you feel that way. However if you wish to perceive it as such Badwin, that's entirely your choice. Not to mention, it's apparent that I too was not the only one who publicly announced any confusion or possible mishap with this member.
Maybe a re-read of my post and all it's following replies is necessary to have a better understanding, in it's entirety. And with the RWI history (any forum for that matter) of a select few of members who had established themselves only to later disappear after making a handful of transactions, it shouldn't be unexpected of anyone to publicly seek answers to any questions they may have.
In addition, I will say this, that money is money, and if a public announcement of any curiosity or possible mishap with another member is perceived as "calling out" someone as a scammer, then so be it I suppose. I never blatantly called anyone out as a scammer.
I (as a level headed person) wouldn't expect anything differently of anyone who felt they may have been or might be done wrong if they were to have something go wrong with any transactions with me.
Bottom line, nobody deserves to get scammed out of their hard earned money any way you look at it.
TO: 05tbowner, again, I do apologize for the perception this may have caused. However I am confident, you'll set things straight.
Not really. Personally, I can't think of any reason to remove the thread. Since it didn't turn up in the search, it wasn't moved to any place where the purchaser could reference it. That isn't particularly funny either. Just something to consider the next time an incident like this happens- it creates more speculation and misunderstanding when you do something like that rather than simply closing the thread.
I find it odd that I could be accused of sniffing glue when all I did was post an honest inference regarding the facts as I knew them at the time and based on a very peculiar action taken on the forum which I hadn't seen before.
Yes, I'm getting ready to be banned again because someone doesn't care for my point of view. I suppose I should stick to posting "nice watch," titty pics, and "when is the noob factory going to make this version?"
I do apologize if I hurt your feelings though, I'm beginning to understand just how sensitive some people can be here and will work to ensure I take precautions not to hurt more feelings in the future.
- 30/3/08
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Got your PM master and passed it onto AHW since she has the lead on this one.
Thinkbachs:icard: What planet are you on exactly mate? As explained above, sale was open, seller was no-saled so as is the norm all open sales were moved out of harms way to prevent any more sales being made.
Thinkbachs:
icard: What planet are you on exactly mate? As explained above, sale was open, seller was no-saled so as is the norm all open sales were moved out of harms way to prevent any more sales being made.
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Thank you for that. I did in fact have communications with her. So all is good to go at this time.
Thank you again.
Got your PM master and passed it onto AHW since she has the lead on this one.
Thinkbachs:
Please note that the post referring to that action was made after my comment, and my comment was saved in other comments thereby preserving it.
My last comment in part was:
"I find it odd that I could be accused of sniffing glue when all I did was post an honest inference regarding the facts as I knew them at the time"
So I guess asking me what planet I'm on really doesn't make sense if you read things in order instead of reverse. Thanks for pointing it out nonetheless, I forgive you.
I'm also in the middle of a deal with 05tbowner that has yet to be resolved... Paid for a watch (5512) on the 10th, and have yet to receive it. Thread was left open until a couple of days ago when I posted that I had paid on the 10th. I received the same story as the OP, so hopefully, that was the case. I had only received a tracking number after multiple requests, and was told it went express. The tracking # supplied showed first class, and when asked about this, he said that it was the post office's fault (twice now, the excuse has been it's the post office's fault). The # is now showing that it's in my town, so I would expect it tomorrow. I'll be sure to protect myself by videotaping the retrieval from mailbox, as well as the opening to show either that the envelope/box/whatever does indeed contain the watch. I'm not saying 05tbowner would have sent anything else but the watch, but there was a recent incident on another board of someone sending junk just to cover their ass with a tracking #... I hope to update with good news tomorrow.
If bowner wanted to expedite this situation to clear his name...I'd suggest to simply refund the monies paid until the buyers get their items...At that point the buyers make payment...This is how a misunderstanding gets righted quickly.
Spboudart
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+1
I wouldn't have wrote it in those word but definetely understand what you're trying to point out.
I now see the mods and Col trying to make you look like the bad guy, but you're not.
I know the staff here (as well as on the other rep foras) has a lot to do, but it's no reason not to do things right, and maybe accept comments (which are here just to make this place a better place).
Anyway, my point and ThinkBachs's is to say that, once 05 was put on the no sale list, instead of removing this sale thread, closing it and having a post by Ahw (or any other mod) just stating that the seller was on the no sale list (and maybe the reason why), would have save the mod himself lot of time and work and who ever was trading with the no sale person a lot of worries.
I've only missed 10 days out of the 1000+ since I join and still sometime get confused to whom to contact in case of problem. I imagine that Master had no idea what was going on and had no clue of who was in charge a simple post from Alina would have been so much consideration.
I know the rules, I know this is no democracy, but I know that people with power sometime forget why they accepted this power for.
(ie: a cop job is to serve and protect.......)
Regards
shandroid
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At the risk of being gunned down, I'm kinda with you two misfits....
Although, I see it from both sides, and think that the survival of the forum is the greater good, so I'm inclined to think, 'so what...?'
look guys, noone hides these threads to damage anyone.
hiding threads is something used to maintain the thread in it's completely original state, untill it might be cleared to be visible again.
should this issue be a misunderstanding, it will be better to have the thread unharmed and back up. on the other hand, if you are in the middle of a sale/buying, and the sale vanishes, what are you missing out on by not being able to see the pics of the said watch?
-as always there will be threads about the subject, so nothing really going under the radar at all. ( the seller being NO saled alone is quite visible to anyone)
the way staff operates is by using methods that we all know and agree on. we don't suddenly do things different from time to time. that is how we know where to find info on new cases. in order for staff not to waste time trying to get themselves updated on an issue, it needs to go by the normal methods.
there are cases where moving threads is totally called for and cases where it is slightly less called for.
however I do believe that removing a OPEN sale out of the public area is the sensitive thing to do.
Involved parties should know where to find answers as always.
hiding threads is something used to maintain the thread in it's completely original state, untill it might be cleared to be visible again.
should this issue be a misunderstanding, it will be better to have the thread unharmed and back up. on the other hand, if you are in the middle of a sale/buying, and the sale vanishes, what are you missing out on by not being able to see the pics of the said watch?
-as always there will be threads about the subject, so nothing really going under the radar at all. ( the seller being NO saled alone is quite visible to anyone)
the way staff operates is by using methods that we all know and agree on. we don't suddenly do things different from time to time. that is how we know where to find info on new cases. in order for staff not to waste time trying to get themselves updated on an issue, it needs to go by the normal methods.
there are cases where moving threads is totally called for and cases where it is slightly less called for.
however I do believe that removing a OPEN sale out of the public area is the sensitive thing to do.
Involved parties should know where to find answers as always.
shandroid
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Like I said, I see it both ways.... After an explanation, I'm cool with all that - not that it really bothered me before - as I previously stated...
I don't envy the mods for all the police-work they get lobbed with, its the rampant sex with all the hot groupies from section 8 that I'm jealous of, right Trk....? :lol:
Spboudart
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Trksh-bzr, we'll all understand that how you proceed, it just might not be the correct way, if it was, such feeling would never be expressed:
I might agree that Master is doing a little whining, but still...
I might agree that Master is doing a little whining, but still...
Or the thread was hidden to avoid other people to contact the seller and possibily allow him to scam other members. I don't see anything abnormal here.
If I were concerned about a disapearing thread I would just contact a mod/admin before starting to worry.
If I were concerned about a disapearing thread I would just contact a mod/admin before starting to worry.
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