GMF released a GMT 3186 clone movement

[Noleex]

Go on with the SH3186 until it works, and swap it if it stops working, I had a lot of these in with stuck DW but I never had one with a broken spring as all tell about that this will brake the first, it’s a completely different part that stops date and hands from working, but yes the vr3185 is a bit better constructed, but it’s really not up to the spring.

VR3185 with ARF Hands

 

[kingkitesurf]

So I received my GMF V3. It looks good and I opened it up to find this inside. 3186 and with gold balance spring. It progresses the hour hand forward when I turn the crown clockwise. Just like the gen. Question: Is there an easy quick date set way to set the date other then the hour hand that needs to jump 24 times. I have the date almost 20 days off and I don’t want to break the spring by jumping the hour almost 500 times. Thanks!

 

[Noleex]

So I received my GMF V3. It looks good and I opened it up to find this inside. 3186 and with gold balance spring. It progresses the hour hand forward when I turn the crown clockwise. Just like the gen. Question: Is there an easy quick date set way to set the date other then the hour hand that needs to jump 24 times. I have the date almost 20 days off and I don’t want to break the spring by jumping the hour almost 500 times. Thanks!

even gen don’t have a quickset, you can use the timesetting Funktion by pulling the crown all the way out to set the date, then you don’t overload the spring, it’s the safest way but yeah it’s a paint to jump from 1 to 20 haha ;-) I set all GMTs that way and never had a broken spring, and I had a lot of these.

 

[bertieng]

This is a VR3185. It is pretty safe to set the date by jumping the hour hand, there is no spring to break unlike the SH3186.

 

[Hazing]

Set the date. Don’t be afraid. I have a Few different versions of this movement and they’re all solid. You are not going to break it by using it in my experience.

 

[Noleex]

This is a VR3185. It is pretty safe to set the date by jumping the hour hand, there is no spring to break unlike the SH3186.

the VR has the same spring just a bit stronger constructed, and even this one can brake

 

[maxus minimax]

I´ m following this thread from the beginning and have just ordered a BLNR at a TD, from which I have bought a few times before. I´ m still a bit confused about the versions of the GMF GMT Master. I have ordered a "GMF V3 GMT 116710BLNR SA 3186" My QC pics show a watch that has the frisbee GMT hand surround. If I understand correctly, this is still a clear indication for the mysterious time bomb movement and not the latest V3 version? The photos on the TD´ s website show a watch, that doesn´ t have the frisbee hand. Did I order the wrong thing, has the TD mixed up product photos on his website...?
Apart from the movement, this frisbee GMT hand just looks ugly and for that reason alone I will not accept this one.

 

[KJ2020]

I´ m following this thread from the beginning and have just ordered a BLNR at a TD, from which I have bought a few times before. I´ m still a bit confused about the versions of the GMF GMT Master. I have ordered a "GMF V3 GMT 116710BLNR SA 3186" My QC pics show a watch that has the frisbee GMT hand surround. If I understand correctly, this is still a clear indication for the mysterious time bomb movement and not the latest V3 version? The photos on the TD´ s website show a watch, that doesn´ t have the frisbee hand. Did I order the wrong thing, has the TD mixed up product photos on his website...?
Apart from the movement, this frisbee GMT hand just looks ugly and for that reason alone I will not accept this one.

V3 does not have the Frisbee GMT hand. Ask for a movement pic if you have to and post it here. V2s are selling for $288

 

[KJ2020]

the VR has the same spring just a bit stronger constructed, and even this one can brake

Gen and VR 3185 click spring is not the same as the gen and SH 3186. I put a crease in an SH3186 spring just reassembling it. It is ridiculously thin. The 3185 is a much better arrangement.

3186

3185

Gen jumping hour click springs compared

 

[immortalchef]

I´ m following this thread from the beginning and have just ordered a BLNR at a TD, from which I have bought a few times before. I´ m still a bit confused about the versions of the GMF GMT Master. I have ordered a "GMF V3 GMT 116710BLNR SA 3186" My QC pics show a watch that has the frisbee GMT hand surround. If I understand correctly, this is still a clear indication for the mysterious time bomb movement and not the latest V3 version? The photos on the TD´ s website show a watch, that doesn´ t have the frisbee hand. Did I order the wrong thing, has the TD mixed up product photos on his website...?
Apart from the movement, this frisbee GMT hand just looks ugly and for that reason alone I will not accept this one.

I’ve just seen someone else get passed an older GMF timebomb movement as a V3. It may be best to ask TDs for a picture of caseback removed to confirm it has the newer VR movement.

https://www.reddit.com/r/RepTime/co...urce=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

 

[shigetty]

immortalchef Hi, it’s me

I shared GMF V3 QC pic on here before, V3 with the frisbee GMT hand. I RL’d that, and 2nd GL’d one was delivered last month. I opened the caseback last night and noticed that there’s a 2824 time bomb movement with 3285 engraving.
https://imgur.com/a/MG4pV1T

I have no idea this GMF is V2 or only the movement is V2. I believe V2 come with 2824 316F and V3 come with 3186 904L. There’s a 3186 sticker on the box and was a 904L sticker on the watch. I reached out to Li but no reply yet.

Everyone take care.

 

[bertieng]

There are just too many versions around. You can never be sure until you have the caseback removed and get to see the exact movement inside.
Ofc the reputation of the TD also plays a very important part......

 

[KJ2020]

immortalchef Hi, it’s me

I shared GMF V3 QC pic on here before, V3 with the frisbee GMT hand. I RL’d that, and 2nd GL’d one was delivered last month. I opened the caseback last night and noticed that there’s a 2824 time bomb movement with 3285 engraving.
https://imgur.com/a/MG4pV1T

I have no idea this GMF is V2 or only the movement is V2. I believe V2 come with 2824 316F and V3 come with 3186 904L. There’s a 3186 sticker on the box and was a 904L sticker on the watch. I reached out to Li but no reply yet.

Everyone take care.

Can you post a closer up view of the handstack? I zoomed in as much as possible on yours and the resolution is poor but it looks very much like the GMT hand hole surround is the Frisbee size. I have not yet seen a 2824 timebomb from GMF without that so it should still be a valid way of determining the movement without taking the caseback off. Stickers on the bracelet or watch or box are not a credible means of ID.

 

[immortalchef]

Can you post a closer up view of the handstack? I zoomed in as much as possible on yours and the resolution is poor but it looks very much like the GMT hand hole surround is the Frisbee size. I have not yet seen a 2824 timebomb from GMF without that so it should still be a valid way of determining the movement without taking the caseback off. Stickers on the bracelet or watch or box are not a credible means of ID.

https://trustytime.shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_5&products_id=21367

This is the timebomb movement right? It has the correct hand stack (non-frisbee)

 

[KJ2020]

https://trustytime.shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_5&products_id=21367

This is the timebomb movement right? It has the correct hand stack (non-frisbee)

That's the wrong pic for V2. The pics of the dial side is a V3. It's a mistake in the web ad.

In the pic below, the bottom image is a GMF V2.

 

[KJ2020]

Here's another GMF V2 correct pic, wrong movement listed by a different TD. In both these examples the error favors the seller.

 

[shigetty]

Sorry for the poor resolution. Here are a high resolution pic and a close up pic, they’re added in the imgur album as well. The GMT hand hole surround is smaller than the hour hand surround.
https://imgur.com/a/MG4pV1T

 

[KJ2020]

Sorry for the poor resolution. Here are a high resolution pic and a close up pic, they’re added in the imgur album as well. The GMT hand hole surround is smaller than the hour hand surround.
https://imgur.com/a/MG4pV1T

Is that a QC pic or a pic you took of the watch in hand with a known 2824 CHS timebomb movement in it?

If the latter is true then GMF has sourced a non Frisbee GMT hand specifically for a clearance model, which is surprising. That movement GMT hand hole size is 1.5mm, and it is different from any other rep movement GMT hands. So GMF could not have just started using a GMT hand from another one of their models.

2836 ICHS GMT hand hole - 2.0mm
VR/SH/SA CHS GMT hand hole - 1.3mm

So, if this is indeed a V2 with a new GMT hand, we now need a movement pic to differentiate it from a V3. There's more than a $150 price difference between the models.

 

[kevBquick]

so if you had a GMF v1 you bought for 458....then the movement breaks....do you buy a v2 for 288 or go for VRF....speaking of the pepsi....i will prolly end up transplanting my v1 insert as i have no speed bumps.

 

[shigetty]

Is that a QC pic or a pic you took of the watch in hand with a known 2824 CHS timebomb movement in it?

I took the picture of the watch in hand by myself, and yes, there’s a 2824 CHS timebomb movement inside the watch. I was surprised and shocked when I opened the caseback, because I ordered V3, paid for V3 and got a non-frisbee GMT hand QC.

Here are an another close up picture I took and a QC picture they took.