GMF released a GMT 3186 clone movement

[ACE1989]

I just went on the line up in the link seems like they have every model available Coke Pepsi root beer Batman. Am I missing something about three new models that are different. Also seems like this may not be a
Clone movt an anyone confirm?


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[Mrgkman]

Problem here is, we don’t have a TD actually selling the new GMF’s... right?


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[Conceyted]

Problem here is, we don’t have a TD actually selling the new GMF’s... right?


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I actually spoke with Li at JTime and he confirms these are for sale, but he has not yet had a customer buy one. I was considering it when it was originally thought to be a true clone movement, but now that I have heard about the movement concerns I am going to wait.

 

[KJ2020]

Problem here is, we don’t have a TD actually selling the new GMF’s... right?


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Send the TSWATCH link to any TD, if the watch is released any TD can get it.

 

[KJ2020]

Regarding GMT movements, I suggest reading GMT Movements Explained to understand them better and learn how to recognize what is being offered.

There are so far only 3 true 3185/6 clones being offered, listed here in order of best to worst

VRF - VR3185 based on VR3135
ARF - SH3186 based on SH3135
GMF - SA3186 based on SA3135

Master watchmaker misiekped ID'ed this GMF as an SA3135 base, and not coincidentally the 3135 movements these GMTs are based on are also ranked in the same order of best to worst.

There are many other threads discussing the pros and cons of 3135 movements, it is general knowledge that the SA3135 commonly used by BP/GMF and Noob among others, is the least preferred of the available clone 3135s.

https://forum.replica-watch.info/for...n-gen-sa-sh-vr

The Noob CHS timebomb is a modified 2824. Noob has not offered a true clone 3186 as of yet.

There are only three of these new GMF releases with true clone movements. 116710LN, BLNR, and 116713LN. Look at the release dates in the web ads. Factories and dealers often called the 2824 CHS an "A3186" also, this is misleading and they are not true clones like these three new releases. Looking at the movement pics will confirm this.

VR3185 movements are readily available and should be a 1:1 swap into the GMF case. Or mix and match to get the best of all worlds.

ARF caseset and bracelet, VR3185, GMF dial and insert. Boom!
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[ACE1989]

Regarding GMT movements, I suggest reading GMT Movements Explained to understand them better and learn how to recognize what is being offered.

There are so far only 3 true 3185/6 clones being offered, listed here in order of best to worst

VRF - VR3185 based on VR3135
ARF - SH3186 based on SH3135
GMF - SA3186 based on SA3135

Master watchmaker misiekped ID'ed this GMF as an SA3135 base, and not coincidentally the 3135 movements these GMTs are based on are also ranked in the same order of best to worst.

There are many other threads discussing the pros and cons of 3135 movements, it is general knowledge that the SA3135 commonly used by BP/GMF and Noob among others, is the least preferred of the available clone 3135s.

https://forum.replica-watch.info/forum/the-3135-3131/7439844-3135-movement-comparison-gen-sa-sh-vr

The Noob CHS timebomb is a modified 2824. Noob has not offered a true clone 3186 as of yet.

There are only three of these new GMF releases with true clone movements. 116710LN, BLNR, and 116713LN. Look at the release dates in the web ads. Factories and dealers often called the 2824 CHS an "A3186" also, this is misleading and they are not true clones like these three new releases. Looking at the movement pics will confirm this.

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Right in other words, the waiting games continue. Either Noob steps up their movt to a super clone 3186 or ARF makes a Pepsi and Batman with current movt and put us out of our misery. I reckon something must be in the works as many are biting the bullet on the noob and dealing with the time setting issues.


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[Saul Goodman]

Well, arf already did a batman it's just not released yet. I have read that Occb2 Was supposed to get one right after Chinese newyear for testing purpose but due to All those corona shutdowns everything is delayed.

 

[RiffRalf]

Regarding GMT movements, I suggest reading GMT Movements Explained to understand them better and learn how to recognize what is being offered.

There are so far only 3 true 3185/6 clones being offered, listed here in order of best to worst

VRF - VR3185 based on VR3135
ARF - SH3186 based on SH3135
GMF - SA3186 based on SA3135

Master watchmaker misiekped ID'ed this GMF as an SA3135 base, and not coincidentally the 3135 movements these GMTs are based on are also ranked in the same order of best to worst.

.... Noob has not offered a true clone 3186 as of yet.

There are only three of these new GMF releases with true clone movements. 116710LN, BLNR, and 116713LN. Look at the release dates.....

VR3185 movements are readily available and should be a 1:1 swap into the GMF case. Or mix and match to get the best of all worlds.

ARF caseset and bracelet, VR3185, GMF dial and insert. Boom!
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Man I want to thank you again for spelling it out again for us.

I have a gen "crystal" duh- from Duc, and will get a vr3185 from the thread you recommended, get this GMF BLNR and I should be rockin'

BTW nobody mentioned the price, I think GMF proced this BLNR a lot fairer than Noov did their BLRO Timebomb

 

[KJ2020]

Man I want to thank you again for spelling it out again for us.

I have a gen insert from Duc, and will get a vr3185 from the thread you recommended, get this GMF BLNR and I should be rockin'

BTW nobody mentioned the price, I think GMF proced this BLNR a lot fairer than Noov did their BLRO Timebomb

Surely you meant to say gen crystal?

Yes Noob is price gouging to make up for raid losses last June. Their V10 GMT 2824 CHS's should be $100 lower than this GMF not the other way around.

 

[RiffRalf]

Surely you meant to say gen crystal?

Yes Noob is price gouging to make up for raid losses last June. Their V10 GMT 2824 CHS's should be $100 lower than this GMF not the other way around.

Duh ... I wish!
The BLRO is so popular that people bought it anyway. And it sure looks pretty.

I actually prefer the Batman over the BLRO so was never really tempted by the Noob. The Batman caught my eye when it first came out but it was totally not on my radar to ever obtain-life had and has different priorities for me. But this rep malarkey has brought it within reach. Should ARF or GMF come out with a good BLRO OOTB I may change my tune ....

 

[ACE1989]

Well, arf already did a batman it's just not released yet. I have read that Occb2 Was supposed to get one right after Chinese newyear for testing purpose but due to All those corona shutdowns everything is delayed.

Well whoever has it in their possession is most likely testing it and I’m sure that with posts like these factories are definitely getting the message that we want an arf Pepsi or superclone 3186 noob


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[Genera74]

Regarding GMT movements, I suggest reading GMT Movements Explained to understand them better and learn how to recognize what is being offered.

There are so far only 3 true 3185/6 clones being offered, listed here in order of best to worst

VRF - VR3185 based on VR3135
ARF - SH3186 based on SH3135
GMF - SA3186 based on SA3135

Master watchmaker misiekped ID'ed this GMF as an SA3135 base, and not coincidentally the 3135 movements these GMTs are based on are also ranked in the same order of best to worst.

There are many other threads discussing the pros and cons of 3135 movements, it is general knowledge that the SA3135 commonly used by BP/GMF and Noob among others, is the least preferred of the available clone 3135s.

https://forum.replica-watch.info/for...n-gen-sa-sh-vr

The Noob CHS timebomb is a modified 2824. Noob has not offered a true clone 3186 as of yet.

There are only three of these new GMF releases with true clone movements. 116710LN, BLNR, and 116713LN. Look at the release dates in the web ads. Factories and dealers often called the 2824 CHS an "A3186" also, this is misleading and they are not true clones like these three new releases. Looking at the movement pics will confirm this.

VR3185 movements are readily available and should be a 1:1 swap into the GMF case. Or mix and match to get the best of all worlds.

ARF caseset and bracelet, VR3185, GMF dial and insert. Boom!
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Thanks for spelling it out for us noobs. I like the BLNR insert but ur post above on SA3186 being inferior to SH and VR kinda make me pause a bit..

 

[RiffRalf]

Thanks for spelling it out for us noobs. I like the BLNR insert but ur post above on SA3186 being inferior to SH and VR kinda make me pause a bit..

The again for the savings from not getting this one instead you can afford a vr3185 movement , a gen crystal, a modder's fee and a gently used commuter vehicle...

 

[Conceyted]

It is now up on Trustytime but no price is listed yet (currently at $8,888)

 

[stufuse]

I think they may be using the wrong sized minute hand for the 116710. The minute hand length looks more like the length used in the 126710.

The insert is looking much better. I am not able to make out any visible speedbumps in pictures or video. I wonder if that issue is now solved?

That’s a keen eye! Done it now haven’t you!!


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[RiffRalf]

Aaargh with the COVID19 outbreak and associated potential economic hardships, my office just closing down tomorrow, my plans for an upgrade on my GMF BLNR with the ICHS will have to be put on hold ... bummer. For once I was not going to wait for other people to take the lead but jumo the shark early myself but priorities have to be reassessed ..

 

[Dissemination]

Aaargh with the COVID19 outbreak and associated potential economic hardships, my office just closing down tomorrow, my plans for an upgrade on my GMF BLNR with the ICHS will have to be put on hold ... bummer. For once I was not going to wait for other people to take the lead but jumo the shark early myself but priorities have to be reassessed ..

I know man. Its rough. So many things (mostly reps) I want to buy, but I'm just taking it slow. Finishing my frankens only for now. But this is absolutely next on my list.

 

[cwfmon]

It is now up on Trustytime but no price is listed yet (currently at $8,888)

TT just posted a video too.

I don’t know about the insert though. The blue/black line at the 18 is off. Also, the blue looks good in the pic but looks a bit off in the video.

 

[cwfmon]

It is now up on Trustytime but no price is listed yet (currently at $8,888)

TT just posted a video too.

I don’t know about the insert though. The blue/black line at the 18 is off. Also, the blue looks good in the pic but looks a bit off in the video.

 

[KJ2020]

TT just posted a video too.

I don’t know about the insert though. The blue/black line at the 18 is off. Also, the blue looks good in the pic but looks a bit off in the video.

Yeah the insert shown on Trusty is the one GMF is currently using on its other BLNR CHS offerings. It has the 18 transition short of the 8 to avoid the number bump, and the blue is a lighter shade. Weird that it is shown as a very different insert on TSWATCH. That said, the GMF insert was already the best rep Batman insert despite the noted flaws. It could be that there is a new insert, and Trusty just got a sample with an insert left from the old batch.

Only the A3186 V3 has the new true clone movement. Others are shown for insert comparison.

https://trustytime.shop/index.php?m...d=Rolgmt blnr gmf&inc_subcat=0&page=1&sort=3d

TSWATCH link

https://www.ts-stations.cn/mobile/goods.php?ProId=26804