Its shine
I agree with Clean having the best case shape & rehaut engraving. VSF definitely has the better movement, Crystal, fluted bezel, date disc and crown. Out of the box I lean VSF for the movement.
Beautiful mate that’s stunningI agree with Clean having the best case shape & rehaut engraving. VSF definitely has the better movement, Crystal, fluted bezel, date disc and crown. Out of the box I lean VSF for the movement.
Plating the bezel is a must for either if you opt for a fluted bezel. A genuine bezel is a very pricy upgrade and the plating looks wise gets it very close (FlanDad is who I use for bezel plating). The weight won’t match unless you opt for a genuine 18k white gold Rolex bezel.
Personally, I think both DateJust 41 models benefit greatly from mods.
My build is a pretty extensive super franken:
-Clean case
-VSF movement + gen new style rotor (eliminates rotor noise after service)
-Genuine crystal
-Genuine dial
-Genuine white gold hands
-Genuine WG bezel (replaced prior plated bezel)
-Genuine date disc
-Genuine crown
-Polished rehaut
-Case and bracelet refinished (re-brushed, re-polished to gen spec).
-Movement serviced & regulated
-Waterproofed![]()
![]()
Thank you so much! Has been an enjoyable and educational process to have built. Visually I think I’m done unless I go for Gen Jubilee bracelet. Next upgrade will be the balance wheel/ bridge. Yours is a stunner as well! That white Roman dial is gorgeous and was also at the top of my list for a build.Beautiful mate that’s stunning
Once I’ve got the hands and gen Datewheel I’ll be going for the gen bezel which I’ve found for £1600 but I think it’s worth it as I plan on having it for life! Good to meet you as well mate!Thank you so much! Has been an enjoyable and educational process to have built. Visually I think I’m done unless I go for Gen Jubilee bracelet. Next upgrade will be the balance wheel/ bridge. Yours is a stunner as well! That white Roman dial is gorgeous and was also at the top of my list for a build.
When I moved the Blue Roman to clean, I backfilled the VSF with a white stick franken.
![]()
![]()
![]()
![]()
That sounds about right price wise. It’s costly, but Gen is Gen for a reason. The genuine bezel really does add something to make the watch extra special. Great to connect as well, and keep us posted on your progress! Totally worth it in my view.Once I’ve got the hands and gen Datewheel I’ll be going for the gen bezel which I’ve found for £1600 but I think it’s worth it as I plan on having it for life! Good to meet you as well mate!
Will do!That sounds about right price wise. It’s costly, but Gen is Gen for a reason. The genuine bezel really does add something to make the watch extra special. Great to connect as well, and keep us posted on your progress! Totally worth it in my view.
Mirotime has some I thinkEveryone ordererd recently a clean datejust? Puretime said they are hard to source at the moment.. waiting now 4 weeks for mine
i did not know that.I would say Clean if you are willing to change the crystal. OOTB I would say VSF
VSF also has the better movement
But I also would not go for the fluted bezel since its an instant tell imho. On gen you have two different metals which you can instantly see. On the rep the fluted bezel is also steel. But I think that is not a popular opinion here. I would go for smooth bezel because of this though
Fluted bezel on gen is white gold, which has a different tone and shine than the steel on the repi did not know that.
what's the bezel metal?
I guess a WG plating could help solve that ?Fluted bezel on gen is white gold, which has a different tone and shine than the steel on the rep
BingoI guess a WG plating could help solve that ?
Every VSF Vs Clean DJ (or steel Sub) thread answered in 23 (maybe, I've had a drink!) words.I would say Clean if you are willing to change the crystal. OOTB I would say VSF
VSF also has the better movement