Decal printed dial

[Bart Cordell]

I think I'll have to redo all my dials this time )


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[Sogeha]

You're not getting mine back, but I would like to be considered for a 6538 some time

 

[tomtom2]

@tomtom2
Nice ! How was the dial plate ? Brassed and you print black & white, or white and you print black ?


[emoji632]

Hi Bart!

Genuine bras plate, polished, then spraypainted...

Then printed in white or black.
I managed to print a second layer of lume directly to the dial...

And then relumed if necessary...[emoji1303][emoji41]

Problem for rlx dials...the steel plate with the pattern. My maker will not do any rlx plates to reprint rlx dials...[emoji30]


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[tomtom2]

@tomtom2
Nice ! How was the dial plate ? Brassed and you print black & white, or white and you print black ?


[emoji632]

Hi Bart!

Genuine bras plate, polished, then spraypainted...

Then printed in white or black.
I managed to print a second layer of lume directly to the dial...

And then relumed if necessary...[emoji1303][emoji41]

Problem for rlx dials...the steel plate with the pattern. My maker will not do any rlx plates to reprint rlx dials...[emoji30]


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[manodeoro]

@tomtom2
Is steel mandatory for the printing plate ?
Or can it be brass ?

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[tomtom2]

@tomtom2
Is steel mandatory for the printing plate ?
Or can it be brass ?

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Bras should be usable, too! Cheers


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[tomtom2]

@tomtom2
Is steel mandatory for the printing plate ?
Or can it be brass ?

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Should looks like this!



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[RocketHurricane]

How was that made?

Should looks like this!



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[manodeoro]

Should looks like this!



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OK ... so "spraypainted" vs "printed" (but I see you already mentionned that).

Some more questions ... if you dont mind :
1 - thickness of the plate ?
2 - overall dimensions ?

With enough informations I could make a template for an etched brass plate and ask my maker if he would agree to make some.
BTW ... I suppose you use 1 plate for each color ?

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[manodeoro]

Should looks like this!



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Forgot 2 questions :
1 - Are the parts "to be painted" recessed ?
Or the contrary ?
2 - Which depth is the recess ?

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[manodeoro]

Should looks like this!



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My bad ... I have re-read one of your posts here https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/decal-printed-dial.288290/page-19#post--3250624

I suppose the process is :
1 - place the printing plate on the machine
2 - spread the ink on the printing plate and clean the non-recessed parts
3 - push down the plastic head to get the ink on it
4 - place the dial under the inked plastic head
5 - push the plastic head on the dial to print
6 - let the dial dry out
7 - repeat process for each colour

So the pattern on the printing plate is recessed and "one pattern for each color".

 

[Limer]

Gosh! Such a pretty thing. I guess you won't need my support after all.. Thats pretty much the best you can do. Looks gorgeous! Did you use electroplating?

 

[tomtom2]

My bad ... I have re-read one of your posts here https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/decal-printed-dial.288290/page-19#post--3250624

I suppose the process is :
1 - place the printing plate on the machine
2 - spread the ink on the printing plate and clean the non-recessed parts
3 - push down the plastic head to get the ink on it
4 - place the dial under the inked plastic head
5 - push the plastic head on the dial to print
6 - let the dial dry out
7 - repeat process for each colour

So the pattern on the printing plate is recessed and "one pattern for each color".

Correct, bro! That's the Way it works![emoji1303][emoji41]


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[tomtom2]

OK ... so "spraypainted" vs "printed" (but I see you already mentionned that).

Some more questions ... if you dont mind :
1 - thickness of the plate ?
2 - overall dimensions ?

With enough informations I could make a template for an etched brass plate and ask my maker if he would agree to make some.
BTW ... I suppose you use 1 plate for each color ?

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1. & 2. my plates are 50x50mm -10 mm thick!

For informations regarding pattern (eps/Illustrator vector file) Bart is the man!

And your right, 1 plate for each color - important: a center point etched in the center of each pattern, 0,3-0,5 mm in dia!

Cheers Tom


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[tomtom2]

How was that made?






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It's etched in steel, 23-27 ym deep


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[manodeoro]

1. & 2. my plates are 50x50mm -10 mm thick!

For informations regarding pattern (eps/Illustrator vector file) Bart is the man!

And your right, 1 plate for each color - important: a center point etched in the center of each pattern, 0,3-0,5 mm in dia!

Cheers Tom


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So ...
Let's suppose that the maker I know agree to etch some Rolex dial patterns on brass plates :
- 50x50mm
- 0.5mm thick
- etched 0.25mm deep
an that I send you those plates.
Do you think you could print dials ?

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[GC]

I love this place

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[tomtom2]

So ...
Let's suppose that the maker I know agree to etch some Rolex dial patterns on brass plates :
- 50x50mm
- 0.5mm thick
- etched 0.25mm deep
an that I send you those plates.
Do you think you could print dials ?

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Hi, plate must be minimum 5mm thick, 10mm is better! Otherwise I habe to build a special tooling to keep the plate in place![emoji1303][emoji41]

But I think it's not e problem to print from such a plate!


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[manodeoro]

Hi, plate must be minimum 5mm thick, 10mm is better! Otherwise I habe to build a special tooling to keep the plate in place![emoji1303][emoji41]

But I think it's not e problem to print from such a plate!


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I'm quite sure I cant get any 5mm thick.
What about a 1/2mm thick copper plate glued on a 9mm PMMA block ?
Do you think it could work ?

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[manodeoro]

Here's my first attempt to do a "6538 Red Depth gilt decal dial".
Far from perfect but I think @Bar Cordell will do better ... now he knows that it is possible :bb: