Dead black bay v4

[Maron]

How much does the rotor move when you wind it ?

You changed your mind about swapping it out ?

It doesn't move very much at all, just slightly. I don't know if that's normal or not.

I haven't exactly changed my mind about swapping it but it was suggested to open it up and see if there was any obvious problem like a loose screw blocking a gear. So I thought I'd take a look.

So this is clone 2824?

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[Maron]

I am not sure if anything is going to come from this Maron.. [emoji20] do you have a puffer? Blow out the movement a little bit, and see if that helps


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I do not have one. My tools are limited

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[Raddave]

It doesn't move very much at all, just slightly. I don't know if that's normal or not.

I haven't exactly changed my mind about swapping it but it was suggested to open it up and see if there was any obvious problem like a loose screw blocking a gear. So I thought I'd take a look.

So this is clone 2824?

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Slight bit of rotor movement is normal.

And yes that is a seagull clone you got there....

and for the tip...... set a washcloth over your case holder next time you use it to prevent scratches, i learned the hard way too !

 

[FiloViridae]

I do not have one. My tools are limited

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Hmm.. Got a clean eye dropper?!


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[Raddave]

Empty squeezable (wash it out first) mustard bottle works pretty good too.........

 

[occb2]

I can order you a brand new ETA 2824 from StarTime for $180 plus shipping.

 

[FiloViridae]

Empty squeezable (wash it out first) mustard bottle works pretty good too.........

Man.. I could see someone using a FULL bottle of mustard [emoji23]

If you have steady hands, anything squeezable that puffs out some air will work!

I can order you a brand new ETA 2824 from StarTime for $180 plus shipping.

Do it... You will NOT regret it. Not only is he the man, he's the man. Anything else needed!?


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[T3RM1N4T0R]

+1 or open a help desk ticket

I completely disagree with this. Dead on arrival maybe had it a few weeks tough break but not seller issue :xj4:

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[Raddave]

Man.. I could see someone using a FULL bottle of mustard [emoji23]

If you have steady hands, anything squeezable that puffs out some air will work!

Um i remember helping this one guy out to seal the HEV on his DSSD with epoxy once......i did NOT tell him to wait till the epoxy dried before putting the movement back in.....(my mistake)

He posted a a wristie in the pool like 10 minutes after i told him to JB weld the HEV........


I try to eliminate variables now if i can ....

 

[T3RM1N4T0R]

I completely disagree with this. Dead on arrival maybe had it a few weeks tough break but not seller issue :xj4:

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Or was it sarcasm

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[occb2]

Very simple fix. Get an ETA 2824-2 and remove those two screwed tabs that are holding the movement on to the movement holder. Remove the stem from the watch. That point the movement will come out. There are two little clips that go into the movement on the sides and hide they are holding the dial on. Problem you will have are the hands. You need a hands removing tool or you can get them off with wax paper and two small screw drivers. But you will need a hands press or hand tools to put the hands back in. A Real Tudor Blackbay has an ETA 2824 in it. It is just decorated by tudor. As of this year that will stop. They are going to in house movements.

Once the hands are off the dial will fall out if you pulled the two small clips.

Put it on dial paper so you don't scratch the dial.

Secure the hands.

Now take your Gen ETA 2824 and remove the date wheel. Very easy. Get tweeters and you can see a small click where the date wheel is held on. I align the teeth by pulling a little to the right and when the teeth are aligned pull up slowly and the date wheel comes off.

Take your new ETA put the stem and crown in. Align and put dial on. Push clips in to secure dial. Here you will have a problem if you don't have hand tools. Press the hour hand on the first pinion. It will slide in. Same with the min hand. The seconds hand you will need a loop. There is a very small hole that the second hand goes into. Once you align the hole and the hand use a pushing tool of the hand set and it till enter. Make sure your hands are not rubbing on the dial or into each other after each application of a hand.

That point remove the stem and make sure your dial is clean and no dust and same with your case. Compressed air works wonders. Put the movement back into the movement holder and realign the stem and insert and test everything. Once everything is good. Secure the movement to the movement holder. Re lube the rubber seal and close the watch.

Done.

 

[airking1975]

OP, My experience with replacement clone movements have been really good and they cost less than Gen ETA. TC's clone movements I hear are wonderful at $140. When I really like a watch, and plan on keeping it for a long time, I tend to buy an ETA. If I just like a watch and have to fix it, then I use a clone. They are easy to service and to get parts for from my understanding. Seems that the parts are interchangeable between ETA and Clone anyways.

I did have a question for some of the others who mentioned the H4 CP on the TC 2824 Clone... I thought the TC 2824 Clone's HP CP is shorter to mimic the hand height of the Rolex Gen.

If OP uses a TC Clone 2824 which comes with a lower profile HP CP, does that mean the hands would be too low to clear the markers on this Tudor BB?

 

[airking1975]

H4, not HP... geez.. what was I thinking

 

[occb2]

You can not use a H4 on the hands he has. Plus a gen Tudor does not use H4. H4 is used with Eta clones in rolex reps because it looks more like the rolex pinion spacing. The hands he has will not work anyway on H4's

 

[FiloViridae]

Yep! Super simple, I just did it. And there are a mountain of YouTube videos for the 2824, so that'll help tremendously! You'll be fine mate. If you're still not sure, I'm sure some members will do it for you[emoji1303] but it's super quick, and simple! It's like a bandaid.. Sort of?


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[FiloViridae]

H4, not HP... geez.. what was I thinking

Computers!? [emoji23] yeah, you cannot use that. It won't work with the handset


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[airking1975]

Wow, that was fast, thanks guys. I usually send the watch like this to Katt and he fixes them pretty quick for a very reasonable price... Might not have to replace the movement..

 

[occb2]

That is what we are here for brother.....

 

[FiloViridae]

Um i remember helping this one guy out to seal the HEV on his DSSD with epoxy once......i did NOT tell him to wait till the epoxy dried before putting the movement back in.....(my mistake)

He posted a a wristie in the pool like 10 minutes after i told him to JB weld the HEV........


I try to eliminate variables now if i can ....

That's hilarious.. I really question people's intelligence.. Consistently.


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[JoeyT]

Or was it sarcasm

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It was sarcasm my friend. Movement issues are the risk we take for buying these watches. Just throw and ETA in and wear it till the hands fall off is my opinion.