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[CONSENSUAL LIST] Super Reps NWBIGs

museguy

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Watcher15

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Awesome list. Btw, I just checked one super clone in your list (Audemars Piguet ROO Diver JF 10) and comparing it side by side (pictures of gen-whatever angle is available) and I can tell some significant differences between the two. For me, it won't pass as a super clone. I don't know if 10 refers to v10 but that's what I'm looking at. I might be wrong though. I'm just posting what I'm currently looking at and what I think of it. No disrespect. I'm gonna check the other ones too that I can find in puretime. So far, I found two (not sure if it's in your list) that has the potential to be a super clone as I couldn't find more than one discrepancy but then again I'm no expert. I just have a good sense of attention to detail as I was a QA and Inspector before. I know that gen and rep have flaws and rep will never be perfect...I'm just giving my opinion here because for me, the term super clone means that it's hard to distinguish between the two. That's just me. :) I apologize if I offended you with my post in any way...that's not my intention. I'm just saying what I am observing when comparing pictures.
 
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Grand_Nagus

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Awesome list. Btw, I just checked one super clone in your list (Audemars Piguet ROO Diver JF 10) and comparing it side by side (pictures of gen-whatever angle is available) and I can tell some significant differences between the two. For me, it won't pass as a super clone. I don't know if 10 refers to v10 but that's what I'm looking at. I might be wrong though. I'm just posting what I'm currently looking at and what I think of it. No disrespect. I'm gonna check the other ones too that I can find in puretime. So far, I found two (not sure if it's in your list) that has the potential to be a super clone as I couldn't find more than one discrepancy but then again I'm no expert. I just have a good sense of attention to detail as I was a QA and Inspector before. I know that gen and rep have flaws and rep will never be perfect...I'm just giving my opinion here because for me, the term super clone means that it's hard to distinguish between the two. That's just me. :) I apologize if I offended you with my post in any way...that's not my intention. I'm just saying what I am observing when comparing pictures.

Just curious, from a QA point of view what have been your favorite clones so far?
 

Watcher15

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I can't say that I have favorites but without being too picky on the movement coz most discrepancies are in there, Omega Seamaster Diver 300M, PP 5527, some IWC and a bunch of Noob Rolex watches seem legit enough. Again, I am not an expert when it comes to this lol and I have yet to check the other watches that interest me. So far, I've only gone through like maybe 20 watches haha it's a tedious job lol I think I found the AP ROO that is good enough. :) FYI, I did not measure any of those watches so I might be missing something. I'm just going by the pictures (Gen) available on the web.
 

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Omagad Quick question regarding the JF v2 Explorer I 214270 -> when reading through various forums incl. the sarcastic thread here on RWI it seems the ARF (as successor of the JF) is the current best version of the 214270.

Should the listing be updated to ARF?

KR,
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Time_Wizard

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Awesome list. Btw, I just checked one super clone in your list (Audemars Piguet ROO Diver JF 10) and comparing it side by side (pictures of gen-whatever angle is available) and I can tell some significant differences between the two. For me, it won't pass as a super clone. I don't know if 10 refers to v10 but that's what I'm looking at. I might be wrong though. I'm just posting what I'm currently looking at and what I think of it. No disrespect. I'm gonna check the other ones too that I can find in puretime. So far, I found two (not sure if it's in your list) that has the potential to be a super clone as I couldn't find more than one discrepancy but then again I'm no expert. I just have a good sense of attention to detail as I was a QA and Inspector before. I know that gen and rep have flaws and rep will never be perfect...I'm just giving my opinion here because for me, the term super clone means that it's hard to distinguish between the two. That's just me. :) I apologize if I offended you with my post in any way...that's not my intention. I'm just saying what I am observing when comparing pictures.

So what flaws exactly did you find on the 15703 V10?
 

Watcher15

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For me, the dial on the ZF is more accurate than the one in JF (minute dial placement). However, the movement's design is a little more accurate on the JF than the ZF. The JF's movement though is more rougher looking in close up view compared to the ZF. The cut on the case area near the crown is not refined on both...same with the hands (but it might be the lighting so that's debatable). The case back on ZF is much better compared to the JF. Between the two, I might get the JF just because the movement's design is more accurate..but if I'm going to judge it just by looking at the front then I will go with the ZF. I compared the two using puretime's pictures.
 

Watcher15

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Correction: Just saw the photo-luminescent pictures and JF got it right. I'll choose JF over ZF.
 

TheController

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Omagad Quick question regarding the JF v2 Explorer I 214270 -> when reading through various forums incl. the sarcastic thread here on RWI it seems the ARF (as successor of the JF) is the current best version of the 214270.

Should the listing be updated to ARF?

KR,
TheController

Also looking closer into the topic I have to admit that the overall appeal (mostly made via the dial) seems to be the best on the BP 214270 904L version vs. the ARF 214270 904L version (dial is just not correct)
 
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Oski777

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For me, the dial on the ZF is more accurate than the one in JF (minute dial placement). However, the movement's design is a little more accurate on the JF than the ZF. The JF's movement though is more rougher looking in close up view compared to the ZF. The cut on the case area near the crown is not refined on both...same with the hands (but it might be the lighting so that's debatable). The case back on ZF is much better compared to the JF. Between the two, I might get the JF just because the movement's design is more accurate..but if I'm going to judge it just by looking at the front then I will go with the ZF. I compared the two using puretime's pictures.

lol it should be a really hard job doing QA and posting on this topic like a master expert by comparing puretime photos...yet another noob here?! C'mon man...
 

Watcher15

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Oski777 I didn't say I'm an expert when it comes to this. You need to read my post properly. Smh. I am merely giving my opinion. If I am wrong then so be it. Like I've said (if you know how to read), I am no expert. I guess you're noob at reading. Lol
 

Watcher15

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Oski777 what is a master expert? C'mon man! Go back to school or get a real job lol that's probably going to teach you a thing or two lol
 

YellowFin

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Awesome list. Btw, I just checked one super clone in your list (Audemars Piguet ROO Diver JF 10) and comparing it side by side (pictures of gen-whatever angle is available) and I can tell some significant differences between the two. For me, it won't pass as a super clone.

Pics or it didn't happen. v9.5 was already ranked high and v10 improved on some points.
 
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JonathanLing91

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Hi, for the VSF Planet Ocean it says 45.5/42mm. Does that mean the 43.5mm size isn’t considered First Class NWBIG?


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