Compare ARF 116710LN with the VRF 116710LN

[jcher]

Why not just use ARF bracelet?

it doesn't solve the SEL issue unfortunately..

 

[Dissemination]

it doesn't solve the SEL issue unfortunately..

Can you elaborate? I just ordered the VRF thinking I can swap the bracelet and be good to go.

 

[jcher]

Can you elaborate? I just ordered the VRF thinking I can swap the bracelet and be good to go.

On my VRF the issue comes from the lug holes, I have swapped bracelet and even tried with gen springbars without success :/

 

[BiH855]

2 questions. Where did you get only movement and how you brush the bracelet? (I guess thats what your brushing)

I got the movement local but it's available everywhere over the internet, also saw it here in the sales area and I think TD's can also source it.
I will brush the whole watch, I don't like the brushing on the lugs, every lug looks different how it reflects the light and the lugs are slightly rounded, needs to be more straight surface imo... also the overall brushing is different from gen, will try to brush it or let someone do it, dunno yet..

 

[BiH855]

Was really surprised by the VR datewheel, wanted to put an old gen DW in, but it was sitting slightly low so have put the VR back in and it's really really close to gen imo, for me absolutely okay and since it's sitting better in the window I will let it as it is. Have made some comparison pics between gen and the VR datewheel. Also some pics of the gen datewheel sitting sligthly too low..

 

[Dissemination]

On my VRF the issue comes from the lug holes, I have swapped bracelet and even tried with gen springbars without success :/

So what is your issue exactly? It's too loose?

 

[jcher]

So what is your issue exactly? It's too loose?

To me the SELs are uneven on my VRF as per the picture I posted (#486) when on the ARF they are simply perfect!

When it comes to my builds, inconveniently, so far I haven't been able to install the GEN bezel / insert on the ARF so the swap is still ongoing...

Any members who experienced the same ?

 

[Dissemination]

To me the SELs are uneven on my VRF as per the picture I posted (#486) when on the ARF they are simply perfect!

When it comes to my builds, inconveniently, so far I haven't been able to install the GEN bezel / insert on the ARF so the swap is still ongoing...

Any members who experienced the same ?

Lol brother I was so confused but now I think I *might* see it. But never would have noticed had you not pointed it out. But I get it. With reps we like ~90-95% accuracy. Frankens we want ~98-99% accuracy.

 

[jcher]

Lol brother I was so confused but now I think I *might* see it. But never would have noticed had you not pointed it out. But I get it. With reps we like ~90-95% accuracy. Frankens we want ~98-99% accuracy.

I forgot to mention I was OCD, you may have figured

In all honesty I wish I could use the VRF case as the movement is held by screws when ARF uses tabs


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[Dissemination]

I forgot to mention I was OCD, you may have figured

In all honesty I wish I could use the VRF case as the movement is held by screws when ARF uses tabs


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I decided to go with VRF for the same reason (movement screws. And ARF is currently not available lol).. and plan on getting the case reworked. I suppose the SEL issue you speak of could be caught with careful QC? If the VRF bracelet sel is "perfect," the ARF bracelet SEL should be too..?

 

[jcher]

I decided to go with VRF for the same reason (movement screws. And ARF is currently not available lol).. and plan on getting the case reworked. I suppose the SEL issue you speak of could be caught with careful QC? If the VRF bracelet sel is "perfect," the ARF bracelet SEL should be too..?

Agreed, careful QC should do ;-)

 

[Dissemination]

Agreed, careful QC should do ;-)

Roger that. Well, since you're not completely happy with yours, I'd be completely happy to buy the ARF bracelet from you haha. Seriously though...

 

[Peekman]

Not sure if this has been posted (im new and did not bother to browse all the page to find out) but i have the gen if someone can borrow me a rep for comparison


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[padorkous]

Not sure if this has been posted (im new and did not bother to browse all the page to find out) but i have the gen if someone can borrow me a rep for comparison


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Any pics of the gen?

 

[Peekman]

Not sure if this has been posted (im new and did not bother to browse all the page to find out) but i have the gen if someone can borrow me a rep for comparison


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[Rawbe]

Not sure if this has been posted (im new and did not bother to browse all the page to find out) but i have the gen if someone can borrow me a rep for comparison


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Great first post, so kind of you mate. How many reps shall we send you? Do you want one from each rep factory to compare for accuracy? Thanks again for taking the time to do this, i know you didn't want to waste time reading the thread.

 

[mari115]

I got my ARF 116710 and i have a VRF 116710 incoming, was thinking of swapping the whole block dial-movement: keep the ARF bracelet, case, bezel, insert and put inside VRF's movement and dial. But i wanted to keep ARF's Hands, since they seem way better and have a very nice 3D effect, do you guys know if they can mount on the VRF's pinion? Am i wrong or have i read somewhere that it's not the best idea?

 

[jcher]

I got my ARF 116710 and i have a VRF 116710 incoming, was thinking of swapping the whole block dial-movement: keep the ARF bracelet, case, bezel, insert and put inside VRF's movement and dial. But i wanted to keep ARF's Hands, since they seem way better and have a very nice 3D effect, do you guys know if they can mount on the VRF's pinion? Am i wrong or have i read somewhere that it's not the best idea?

Hi, it should work - just be careful when installing the hands not scratching the dial with the VR3185

 

[mari115]

Hi, it should work - just be careful when installing the hands not scratching the dial with the VR3185

Ok thanks!

 

[jcher]

Ok thanks!

I'm currently installing a VR3185 into an ARF 116710. I have a gen xtal, datewheel, dial, bezel and insert. Only issue so far is the bezel and insert that i can't manage to install into the ARF...