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Stuck between getting the CF Batman or an ARF Batman with a VR movement. Any thoughts?
 
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Mark1937 said:
Same light ;-)
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ARF insert blue color is very good. However, the insert silver engraving fades after few months .

I think a hybrid modding of ARF case , CF VR movement , CF insert , hands , ARF dial and noob jubilee bracelet , a Gen date and crystal .
You get the best of both worlds with a gen touch ;) [mention]KJ2020 [/mention] can correct that if i missed something!


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MFK100 said:
ARF insert blue color is very good. However, the insert silver engraving fades after few months .

I think a hybrid modding of ARF case , CF VR movement , CF insert , hands , ARF dial and noob jubilee bracelet , a Gen date and crystal .
You get the best of both worlds with a gen touch ;) [mention]KJ2020 [/mention] can correct that if i missed something!


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Thanks for the helpful input. Is the silver engraving fading on the ARF insert really noticeable? Haven’t heard of that before.
 
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Noob42069 said:
Thank you! To be fair I can’t even tell a difference between the two. Aside from a slight difference in blue tone. Unless the steel feels different in hand between CF and ARF? But I’ve heard that’s not true.
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Look closer. Its night and day.
 
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Noob42069 said:
Help me out my man. Sorry I’m a noob and it’s hard to tell without the specifics pointed out. Feel free to flame me.
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Don't listen to him he doesn't know anything.

I have the ARF and I'm very happy with it, the insert is great and maybe I got lucky but the numbers haven't faded so far. I take good care of the movement and so far so good

The watch is great overall but the markers will be whiter and more square, but the insert is pressure fitted like gen.

The CF is a nice watch, with probably a more reliable movement. It seems that they have fixed the transition between black and blue at 6 and 18 which when visible is called speed bumps but if you go for this one I'd recommend to be careful about that. The movement is supposed to be more reliable, but the insert is held via double sided tape which is not gen like. I don't own it and I haven't seen a side by side with ARF so I can't tell for certain but from the pics that I've seen the blue looks ever so slightly lighter, when the gen would be a little darker. But other members may disagree.
there you go, it's up to you to make your choice now
 
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Tobel said:
Don't listen to him he doesn't know anything.

I have the ARF and I'm very happy with it, the insert is great and maybe I got lucky but the numbers haven't faded so far. I take good care of the movement and so far so good

The watch is great overall but the markers will be whiter and more square, but the insert is pressure fitted like gen.

The CF is a nice watch, with probably a more reliable movement. It seems that they have fixed the transition between black and blue at 6 and 18 which when visible is called speed bumps but if you go for this one I'd recommend to be careful about that. The movement is supposed to be more reliable, but the insert is held via double sided tape which is not gen like. I don't own it and I haven't seen a side by side with ARF so I can't tell for certain but from the pics that I've seen the blue looks ever so slightly lighter, when the gen would be a little darker. But other members may disagree.
there you go, it's up to you to make your choice now
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You dont know where is the left side dude. Watch your mouth.
 
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Tobel said:
Don't listen to him he doesn't know anything.

I have the ARF and I'm very happy with it, the insert is great and maybe I got lucky but the numbers haven't faded so far. I take good care of the movement and so far so good

The watch is great overall but the markers will be whiter and more square, but the insert is pressure fitted like gen.

The CF is a nice watch, with probably a more reliable movement. It seems that they have fixed the transition between black and blue at 6 and 18 which when visible is called speed bumps but if you go for this one I'd recommend to be careful about that. The movement is supposed to be more reliable, but the insert is held via double sided tape which is not gen like. I don't own it and I haven't seen a side by side with ARF so I can't tell for certain but from the pics that I've seen the blue looks ever so slightly lighter, when the gen would be a little darker. But other members may disagree.
there you go, it's up to you to make your choice now
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Ah thank you so much for the helpful info. Yes I was aware of the speedbumps issues on CF Batman/Pepsis and that’s why I was thinking ARF with a movement swap to a VR3186. Probably just go for the newest version clean though.
 
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As was shown on here before, CFs bezel assembly isn't really the best there is and I was very unhappy with the crappy bezel movement on mine.
Greasy as can be, which is why it could move to begin with.

Changed the 3-pin click springy thing to a gen and removed all of the grease. Unsurprisingly enough, it know also feels like gen.

On another note: there seems to be a lot of confusion about hytrel rings (at least in my head), their shape (round, square, t- or l-shape) and how they're angled and I got confused as to how CF assembled theirs. Turns out the use a L-shaped hytrel ring but angled in the wrong direction, so you'd have to put it in reverse of what the gen would be (180° turnaround). Works, but was very confusing regardless.
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So by installing the gen 3-pin click, the bezel action becomes like gen feelings?

Where did you get the gen 3-pin spring?
 
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Ah thank you so much for the helpful info. Yes I was aware of the speedbumps issues on CF Batman/Pepsis and that’s why I was thinking ARF with a movement swap to a VR3186. Probably just go for the newest version clean though.
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Latest CF version blue is more darker than ARF ;-)
 
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So by installing the gen 3-pin click, the bezel action becomes like gen feelings?

Where did you get the gen 3-pin spring?
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At least mine did, yeah. You can get it from the common gen part sources; ebay, chrono24 or your trusted watchsmith.

Part no. is 316-116710-2-C5 if I'm not mistaken, I paid about $60 for it. There is also aftermarket pieces available but I'm not so sure about them.
 
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