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Gen insert came today,had to sand by hand the outside to fit but only took a second,big thanks to Sercions for the gen insert and Sub007 for the rest
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Made an order BPSD with A2836 from Sead today. Can't wait to get my hand on it.
 

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Anybody else have this prob?

The last link towards the 6 o'clock position- on the clasp - isn't moving freely when the watch is on the wrist.

Seems like the clasp lock gets in the way of it moving.


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its common, the connecting link between clasp and the link itself is a tad too short, sometimes filing the bottom of the "two teeth" on the clasp itself helps the link pivot


Anybody else have this prob?

The last link towards the 6 o'clock position- on the clasp - isn't moving freely when the watch is on the wrist.

Seems like the clasp lock gets in the way of it moving.


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rsh

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I think you mean 2836?? No such thing as a 2826. My BPSD originally had an A2836-2 in it. It had a gen ETA 2836-2 when I sold it.


Guys, I just had one from sead and it was supposed to be 2836 but..... I noticed was the movement was a 2824 not 2836. They look the same in fact they are not stamped.....only difference being the way the date behaves as you approach the midnight. The 2836 is instant flip, 2824 just barely moves for a few minutes so you can see it between dates (a bit) and flips, just the way the mechanism is on 2824 vs 2836
 

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Guys, I just had one from sead and it was supposed to be 2836 but..... I noticed was the movement was a 2824 not 2836. They look the same in fact they are not stamped.....only difference being the way the date behaves as you approach the midnight. The 2836 is instant flip, 2824 just barely moves for a few minutes so you can see it between dates (a bit) and flips, just the way the mechanism is on 2824 vs 2836


Did you have it apart , rsh ?
I heard some of those 2824s had a big-ass washer under the dial to make up the difference in stem height from 2824 to 2836...
 

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Did you have it apart , rsh ?
I heard some of those 2824s had a big-ass washer under the dial to make up the difference in stem height from 2824 to 2836...

No I did not have it apart, by washer you probably mean thicker than usual dial spacer, if they did not change the crown position on the case, and 2836 fits, surely a thicker movement spacer would be used, also means an H4 canon pinon must be installed since the hour hand would otherwise rub the dial
 

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No I did not have it apart, by washer you probably mean thicker than usual dial spacer, if they did not change the crown position on the case, and 2836 fits, surely a thicker movement spacer would be used, also means an H4 canon pinon must be installed since the hour hand would otherwise rub the dial

Well i was told washer, but a thick dial spacer makes more sense.
And i wouldnt be so sure on the H4 with out it being disassembeled.
Ive seen quite a few 2824s with the std pinions but the hand tubes are really long.
I didnt take any pic of the ones i seen but i got this pic off the net
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My blackbay and ploppy were set up like that, it might be an easier way for the factories to do it im guessing ?
 

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if that is the case, you can no longer swap in a TC hands on the 2824-2

This is because the TC hands dont have the funky tall posts you have, they would physically fit but rub the dial with a large spacer and no h4 setup
 

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if that is the case, you can no longer swap in a TC hands on the 2824


I m just saying pull it apart and check it out before you buy hands, im not sure if they are doing it on the SD or not

And even if they are, you could still do the H4 swap and make it right i suppose.
 

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I hate to say it but I told you so, I got a new ETA 2836, H4 pinons, TC hands and Dial, Genuine insert and crown on WSO tube and gen spec crystal with Adrian and Tagfan1 doing the work only problem is we got very behind schedule due to circumstances beyond all our control. I also got a TC bracelet here at home that I will fit.
 

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I hate to say it but I told you so, I got a new ETA 2836, H4 pinons, TC hands and Dial, Genuine insert and crown on WSO tube and gen spec crystal with Adrian and Tagfan1 doing the work only problem is we got very behind schedule due to circumstances beyond all our control. I also got a TC bracelet here at home that I will fit.


You put the H4 setup on a 2836 ?
 

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Thats what Tagfan said to get because of the difference in the 2836 and 2824, plus when Adrian machined the case it would change the position of the movement and allow for the Gen spec crystal, I assume that TC hands take H4 pinions and that tagfan knows what he is doing, the movement was from O frei and so were the pinions...... god knows i have spent a bit of Money and Tagfan understands what i want so i have to trust him. He said the pinions would put the hands at the proper height from the Dial.
 

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Thats what Tagfan said to get because of the difference in the 2836 and 2824, plus when Adrian machined the case it would change the position of the movement and allow for the Gen spec crystal, I assume that TC hands take H4 pinions and that tagfan knows what he is doing, the movement was from O frei and so were the pinions...... god knows i have spent a bit of Money and Tagfan understands what i want so i have to trust him. He said the pinions would put the hands at the proper height from the Dial.



Cant wait till you get it back Bro !!!

Very jealous !!!
 

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For what it's worth the TC hands fit either ETA movement fine. H2, H3 and H4 are only the height and has nothing to do with the diameter of the pinions or what fits. The H4 is necessary when you're using a 2824 because that movement is meant mostly for watches without the date wheel and they sit higher to the dial and it's very difficult to not have the hour hand scrape the dial.

The 2836-2 comes standard with an H3 set which will work on Rolex reps but with the date wheel overlay it's even better to use the H4 so that the hour hand doesn't sit down almost rubbing on the dial. H4 is always better but obviously costs more to have it changed.

I hope this makes sense...
 

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For what it's worth the TC hands fit either ETA movement fine. H2, H3 and H4 are only the height and has nothing to do with the diameter of the pinions or what fits. The H4 is necessary when you're using a 2824 because that movement is meant mostly for watches without the date wheel and they sit higher to the dial and it's very difficult to not have the hour hand scrape the dial.

The 2836-2 comes standard with an H3 set which will work on Rolex reps but with the date wheel overlay it's even better to use the H4 so that the hour hand doesn't sit down almost rubbing on the dial. H4 is always better but obviously costs more to have it changed.

I hope this makes sense...

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if that is the case, you can no longer swap in a TC hands on the 2824

Let us know what you find out Bro, if you do take it apart !
 

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This thread just made me put my SD on...
With TC dial, hands, Gen ETA 2836 and WM pearl ,TC V2 clasp and oh yeah
the bracelet that RSH sent me along time ago !

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