BP Released whole line of DG3804 CHS GMTs - cheap!

[Swiss Maiden]

Pardon my inexperience regarding GMT reps, but does the mechanisms on any of these models a true GMT watch?

Meaning, does the GMT hour hand move according to the gen? Or is it simply a "faux" GMT hour hand, and both the normal hour hand and GMT hour hand meet each other twice a day?

Thanks!

 

[Tobel]

Pardon my inexperience regarding GMT reps, but does the mechanisms on any of these models a true GMT watch?

Meaning, does the GMT hour hand move according to the gen? Or is it simply a "faux" GMT hour hand, and both the normal hour hand and GMT hour hand meet each other twice a day?

Thanks!

It's a true GMT movement

 

[Aventadorx]

Thank you guys! Its my 3rd Order from chazingzime ill will Post some wristies when my watch arives

 

[TheKnight]

the stem seems to get stuck on these DG's. is there a proper way to take it out? i just lightly push the button down.

 

[Hinclimincli]

the stem seems to get stuck on these DG's. is there a proper way to take it out? i just lightly push the button down.

The treading on the crown/tube is not the best, and the stems seem to be a tad short on these models (happened to me in mine as well as two Tiger Concept GMT I have). I'm not sure if buying a new stem will do anything as probably all are the same length. Same goes for a new tube & crown, I don't think it can fit gen spec tube/crowns, even the cheap aftermarket ones.

 

[Hinclimincli]

The treading on the crown/tube is not the best, and the stems seem to be a tad short on these models (happened to me in mine as well as two Tiger Concept GMT I have). I'm not sure if buying a new stem will do anything as probably all are the same length. Same goes for a new tube & crown, I don't think it can fit gen spec tube/crowns, even the cheap aftermarket ones.

Now I stand corrected again, BY MYSELF! I have just installed a spare tube I had from Raffles and works perfectly, it screws well now. I also used some blue loctite to secure it which I guess adds to water resistance. Make sure the size is 3.8mm for the outer diameter and 2.2mm for the inner side (the one that goes into the case).

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[Swiss Maiden]

I just pulled the trigger on the full rose gold gmt from chazingtime did they payment yesterday ill post the qc pics here if anyone is interested

Have you received the watch yet? Really interested in some real life pics....

 

[alvedon]

So i just got mine.
For the price point i would say it’s a solid good rep. I went for the BLNR on Jubilee bracelet.
Unfortunately I can’t seem to move the bezel in any direction. It’s totally stuck. Can’t find the position to change date either. I needed to forward the hour hand to set date. Maybe I’m doin it wrong.

 

[alvedon]

 

[RiffRalf]

So i just got mine.
For the price point i would say it’s a solid good rep. I went for the BLNR on Jubilee bracelet.
Unfortunately I can’t seem to move the bezel in any direction. It’s totally stuck. Can’t find the position to change date either. I needed to forward the hour hand to set date. Maybe I’m doin it wrong.

If this is the CHS (which it looks like to me) it doesn't have a quick set date setting.
For the price it looks great but I think the bezel should work

 

[KJ2020]

So i just got mine.
For the price point i would say it’s a solid good rep. I went for the BLNR on Jubilee bracelet.
Unfortunately I can’t seem to move the bezel in any direction. It’s totally stuck. Can’t find the position to change date either. I needed to forward the hour hand to set date. Maybe I’m doin it wrong.

Crown position 2 should jump the hour hand in one hour increments. You have to advance the hour hand in 24 steps to advance the date. Turn the crown anti clockwise always.

Bezel should turn and could probably be fixed but I don't recommend trying to do it yourself. You can end up a lot worse off than a stuck bezel.

 

[Hinclimincli]

The stem/keyless on the 2813 based GMTs is usually a bit frail, so maybe you need to find that sweet spot where position 2 is active. Then in that position you can move the hour hand alone, thus advancing the days way faster. Mine went into position 2 right after unscrewing the crown. Then I had to go into position 3 and push back fully to get to position 1 and being able to manually wind it. It ended up being sorted out by installing a new tube which is just slightly shorter, so I guess it was just a matter of stem length.

 

[Hinclimincli]

Btw, anyone with a 6-digit GMT can confirm if the case back is also the chubby version we have on the 16710? I'm thinking of getting a Batman but I'd like to be sure...

 

[Swiss Maiden]

I am extremely lost in terms of GMT movements.

I found 2 different BP Rootbeers, with a slight price difference. (I am aware Trusty is not a TD, I just think that website is the easiest to navigate, plus it has videos).

http://www.trustytime02.cc/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_5&products_id=20115
http://www.trustytime02.cc/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_5&products_id=19432

Which is the recommended movement? None of them seem to be the "DG3804" OP talked about....

Thanks!

 

[KJ2020]

I am extremely lost in terms of GMT movements.

I found 2 different BP Rootbeers, with a slight price difference. (I am aware Trusty is not a TD, I just think that website is the easiest to navigate, plus it has videos).

http://www.trustytime02.cc/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_5&products_id=20115
http://www.trustytime02.cc/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_5&products_id=19432

Which is the recommended movement? None of them seem to be the "DG3804" OP talked about....

Thanks!

Neither of those is the new DG3804 movement. They are both the "old" ETA movements that have been around for several years now.

First link is a 2824 CHS, with fake deco engravings of 3186. Old ETA CHS movements are prone to easy breaking and should be avoided.

Second link is a 2836 ICHS without any fake engravings on it. These are solid reliable movements. The only drawback is the GMT hand is on the bottom, unlike the gen, hence the descriptor InCorrect Hand Stack (ICHS).

Trusty has taken down all the DG3804 GMTs that are the subject of this thread. It was thought he did this because of a bad batch of movements. Other dealers still list them.

Note that TSWATCH is not a TD. Send the link below to an RWI TD. Note that is says it is a DG2813. In fact it is a DG2813 variant, a DG3804. These are a lot less expensive movements than ETAs, which accounts for the lower prices. Generally speaking, DG2813 and DG3804 movements are pretty reliable but not on par with ETAs (not including the 2824 CHS mentioned above which is a modified clone ETA, and prone to easy breakage).

However, these new DG3804 CHS movements are new, have no track record, and have a known (or purported) bad batch already. Spend your money and take your chances as the carnival hawker enticed the crowds!

https://www.ts-station.cn/mobile/goods.php?ProId=26372

 

[Swiss Maiden]

Neither of those is the new DG3804 movement. They are both the "old" ETA movements that have been around for several years now.

First link is a 2824 CHS, with fake deco engravings of 3186. Old ETA CHS movements are prone to easy breaking and should be avoided.

Second link is a 2836 ICHS without any fake engravings on it. These are solid reliable movements. The only drawback is the GMT hand is on the bottom, unlike the gen, hence the descriptor InCorrect Hand Stack (ICHS).

Trusty has taken down all the DG3804 GMTs that are the subject of this thread. It was thought he did this because of a bad batch of movements. Other dealers still list them.

Note that TSWATCH is not a TD. Send the link below to an RWI TD. Note that is says it is a DG2813. In fact it is a DG2813 variant, a DG3804. These are a lot less expensive movements than ETAs, which accounts for the lower prices. Generally speaking, DG2813 and DG3804 movements are pretty reliable but not on par with ETAs (not including the 2824 CHS mentioned above which is a modified clone ETA, and prone to easy breakage).

However, these new DG3804 CHS movements are new, have no track record, and have a known (or purported) bad batch already. Spend your money and take your chances as the carnival hawker enticed the crowds!

https://www.ts-station.cn/mobile/goods.php?ProId=26372

Thank you very much for the explanation KJ2020, this is my first time venturing in the world of GMTs. All the movement options and history surrounding the movements seems certainly more "intricate" than most of the other models.....

Has there been a consensus with the new VRF cloned movement, how would you compare it with this offering by BP?

I actually really like the date font on this BPs, even pricey "top of the line" ARF and Noobs have very thick date fonts (even in their subs).

Also BP is known for their gold reps, like the Presi (that's what has me leaning towards the rootbeer).

 

[mrsullivan]

While we're at it, I just ordered a BP 16710 Pepsi (from a nonTD here), description says "Lite Version 2813 CHS", it's a 21j but I'm a bit confused here to what "Lite Version" means...

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[Hinclimincli]

While we're at it, I just ordered a BP 16710 Pepsi (from a nonTD here), description says "Lite Version 2813 CHS", it's a 21j but I'm a bit confused here to what "Lite Version" means...

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That's the exact same one I have, and from that description I can take an educated guess (same page I ordered from, PT)

 

[KJ2020]

While we're at it, I just ordered a BP 16710 Pepsi (from a nonTD here), description says "Lite Version 2813 CHS", it's a 21j but I'm a bit confused here to what "Lite Version" means...

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My take on it is that the 21j makes it a Lite Version CHS, not that the DG2813 is a lite version movement.

Which of course it is, but it's not lighter than normal in this scenario. That would not really be possible.

 

[ssouthall6]

Neither of those is the new DG3804 movement. They are both the "old" ETA movements that have been around for several years now.

First link is a 2824 CHS, with fake deco engravings of 3186. Old ETA CHS movements are prone to easy breaking and should be avoided.

Second link is a 2836 ICHS without any fake engravings on it. These are solid reliable movements. The only drawback is the GMT hand is on the bottom, unlike the gen, hence the descriptor InCorrect Hand Stack (ICHS).

Trusty has taken down all the DG3804 GMTs that are the subject of this thread. It was thought he did this because of a bad batch of movements. Other dealers still list them.

Note that TSWATCH is not a TD. Send the link below to an RWI TD. Note that is says it is a DG2813. In fact it is a DG2813 variant, a DG3804. These are a lot less expensive movements than ETAs, which accounts for the lower prices. Generally speaking, DG2813 and DG3804 movements are pretty reliable but not on par with ETAs (not including the 2824 CHS mentioned above which is a modified clone ETA, and prone to easy breakage).

However, these new DG3804 CHS movements are new, have no track record, and have a known (or purported) bad batch already. Spend your money and take your chances as the carnival hawker enticed the crowds!

https://www.ts-station.cn/mobile/goods.php?ProId=26372

You've sold me. I love throwing money away!


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