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Black Bay 58

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The language of this forum is english, mate.
 

Jhonny

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hello sorry, the fault of the automatic translator. I WANTED TO ASK FOR YOUR OPINION ABOUT THE PEARL OF THIS BB58
 

emesge

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Eric @ geektime sent over pics of two watches so far and both have misaligned hour markers. Most noticeable at 6oclock. Currently waiting for a 3rd *fingers crossed* These are the images of the two he sent over.

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Big Beetle

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Just to chip in here .... I had the ZF Black Bay 58 in Blue for the last 9 months. Loved it. Perfect look and size and kept great time. Spent an awful lot of time on my wrist and I have a lot of super clone reps.

Fancied the original Black Bay 58 and ended up buying the real thing as I loved the blue rep so much.

Truth be told, it's VERY hard to tell which is real and which is the rep. In hand, they feel the same. The bracelets and cases are identical. (Only difference is the Tudor stamping on the inside of the clasp) The bezel action is pretty identical in feel and sound.

The only real difference is the accuracy - the gen is a few seconds fast a day, the rep is 30 seconds a day. Also, the gen has a 70 hour power reserve.

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Spiritzz

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Just to chip in here .... I had the ZF Black Bay 58 in Blue for the last 9 months. Loved it. Perfect look and size and kept great time. Spent an awful lot of time on my wrist and I have a lot of super clone reps.

Fancied the original Black Bay 58 and ended up buying the real thing as I loved the blue rep so much.

Truth be told, it's VERY hard to tell which is real and which is the rep. In hand, they feel the same. The bracelets and cases are identical. (Only difference is the Tudor stamping on the inside of the clasp) The bezel action is pretty identical in feel and sound.

The only real difference is the accuracy - the gen is a few seconds fast a day, the rep is 30 seconds a day. Also, the gen has a 70 hour power reserve.

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Can't work out how to post pics! lol Link below

https://photos.app.goo.gl/HYG1idNcFju1nrox7

Very nice! Though, surely the crown stem is far longer on the rep? Also, 30secs seem a bit whack, but what do I know.
 

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I don't own one but i think it has that phantom position. I have never seen a replica, no-date Rolex or Tudor without that phantom position.

You could consider swapping in an ETA 2840 or 2842 combined setting lever to remove that phantom position.

Is this the only solution? Anyway to modify a2824, so there is only two position?
 

Reacher01

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Question, would a ZF bracelet fit on the gen head? Has anyone tried that?
(I'm talking specifically about the blue BB58, as for what I know the steel is not exactly the same)
 

RobSe1

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Is this the only solution? Anyway to modify a2824, so there is only two position?

Thats the only way. You need a 2 position Setting lever for the keyless. I ordered a used old 2801 Movement to change the Setting lever.
You can also get a used/broken automatic swatch without date. They should have the same lever (i got info)
 

Hor-Fan

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Thats the only way. You need a 2 position Setting lever for the keyless. I ordered a used old 2801 Movement to change the Setting lever.
You can also get a used/broken automatic swatch without date. They should have the same lever (i got info)

You can get the lever from Ofrei

http://www.tztoolshop.com/page30.html

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A note of caution though, while this mod works perfectly with gen Eta 28xx’s - sometimes it won’t mesh properly with Asian clone keyless works.
You may need to transfer the entire set of keyless parts from your donor watch.
 
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