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ARF vs VRF - GMT II 116710LN (clone 3186) - GAMECHANGING BATTLE.

Tobel

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yep, so you should be able to fit a 3135 DW on it (finger crossed)

Hopefully if it's the case, then you could get an ARF GMT, mount the gen dw on it, and then you have a killer gmt, maybe change crystal, depends on how good arf's is

That was the thinking indeed :)
 

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tsyeo4

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Tobel the 3185 will not be the same as the 3135 when dw plate is concerned. Because the 3185 uses a small gear at the date mechanism which needs a jewel to hold that gear. Also the hour wheel are slightly larger than the 3135.

as for the 3186 i believe is very different from the 3185. 3185 hour ratchet sits within the same parts of the hour wheel. But i believe the 3186 itself has a different set of click spring to act as the ratchet hour.

http://blog.watchdoctor.biz/2018/02/24/rolex-3185-vs-3186/

You can read more on this. I have concerns on this 3186 as even gen have issues with the spring. Lets see if it is reliable or not.

i am very interested in the batman.
 

tsyeo4

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Tobel you are able to use the gen 3135 dw on the 3185/3186 dw plate. I have a franken 3185 yuki 3135 with gen 3135 dw. It works well.
 
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Freeflyer

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I always liked ARF dials on the subs. Too bad they went with font that is too bold on the GMT. The O is too circular and fat. Disappointing waiting this long for a great watch with a bad dial & DW.
 

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Which factory can install genuine movement in case?
ARF? VRF? Noob?
 

KJ2020

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Which factory can install genuine movement in case?
ARF? VRF? Noob?

ARF and VRF cases should fit a gen 3185. IDK if anyone has actually done it yet. The 3186 is slightly thicker, it may fit as well. Noob case will not fit a gen movement without some modifications, and even then it's not the best fit.
 

KJ2020

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Interesting point, do you think a 3135 with the GMT conversion parts would fit better?

Yes they would but hopefully we are past needing to do that with the SH3186 and VR3185. Those Yuki conversions are a little pricey. They served well as a upgrade to ETA GMTs.
 

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OOB should be definitely ARF as what I have seen.
But VRF has a nice movement (not saying that ARF isn’t nice as well) and nice case.
 

iotrap

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Has anyone received their ARF yet? Is it the same as mega12s version or not?


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greekgod

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OOB should be definitely ARF as what I have seen.
But VRF has a nice movement (not saying that ARF isn’t nice as well) and nice case.

Thanks mega12. I am sure this has been asked but we cant interchange parts can we? between the two and get a hybrid one? And whats the difference between the movements? Thanks