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ARF vs Noob SA4130: Final battle :D (some pics)

Mike Page

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Same purpose as HYT replica like this one:
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You spend $400+ on ARF watch just to look good on the wrist, but it doesn't work. I wonder why the factory "fakes" the movement with the deco plates, once you run the chronograph everyone knows what it is. That's why us, Noob Daytona owners can live with "not perfect" SEL, bracelet, clasp and other minuscule imperfections - we can run the chronograph and open the caseback to show the movement. On the other hand you need to convince yourself why you've spent good chunk of money on a fake instead of investing in fully functioning chronograph.

Ultimately they are all FAKES/REPLICAS so it's horses for courses who cares
 
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d3xophen

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Hi lukko ,
I am thinking to buy daytona ARF. I don't want working chrono rep rolex. If I want working chronograph, I will try to buy cheap watch brand with working chronograph. I want rolex rep which look same like gen.
So, I will go to ARF.
The only problem that I've read around the forum is the pushers on ARF which pointing angle is different look to gen. Is it obvious?
Can you tell me which dial is look closer to gem between ARF v2 116500 black dial or 116520 white dial?
 

Dr. Mike

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Will either of these take gen parts in order to franken them? (Dial, bezel, crystal etc.,.)
I've wanted a 116509 for a long time, I bought the JF with the A7750. While it was a great watch, it had too many tells for my taste.

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Will either of these take gen parts in order to franken them? (Dial, bezel, crystal etc.,.)
I've wanted a 116509 for a long time, I bought the JF with the A7750. While it was a great watch, it had too many tells for my taste.

very easy to franken, you need a noob daytona, gen dials are about 1500 euro, hands 300 and the bezel you can get from
https://ernst-westphal.de
And the good part, lots of these dials available.Nobody buys them
because the dials are too busy.



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gekkehenkie

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very easy to franken, you need a noob daytona, gen dials are about 1500 euro, hands 300 and the bezel you can get from
https://ernst-westphal.de
And the good part, lots of these dials available.Nobody buys them
because the dials are too busy.



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Are these bezels better then ARF bezels? In your opinion?
 

antale

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very easy to franken, you need a noob daytona, gen dials are about 1500 euro, hands 300 and the bezel you can get from
https://ernst-westphal.de
And the good part, lots of these dials available.Nobody buys them
because the dials are too busy.



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I can not find there the 116520 bezel I'm interested also to buy uan bezel better than arf without spending € 900 for a gen
 

Asmodeus

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Open caseback, nice - but are you saying you can't tell visually this is a clone without a loupe? Is the clone that good? Genuinely interested in your view

Of course you can tell it's a clone, just by looking at the balance assembly. The mainplate is not engraved with a serial number aswell..
 

mui.richard

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Of course you can tell it's a clone, just by looking at the balance assembly. The mainplate is not engraved with a serial number aswell..
True, but to be honest to the regular folks not armed with the knowledge, this is hard to distinguish from a gen 4130
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Asmodeus

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True, but to be honest to the regular folks not armed with the knowledge, this is hard to distinguish from a gen 4130
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Indeed, regular folks won't even open the caseback. hehe
 

Cr7juv

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Let's see a teardown of both of these watches :) and round four begins hehehe ????

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ssouthall6

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Thanks for your opinion!
Some sources to buy an ARF Bezel?!

None :(

Only option is buy the whole watch, swap the parts and sell the donor.

I got one ARF bezel when they were available, bought a second noob and then the supply just stopped so I'm gonna turn it into a 116520 or 116523. The aftermarket 116500 bezels are all terrible.


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