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ARF silently released new 16610LN's and 16610LV's

Art Vandelay

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OK so seriously looking for a kermit, so is RAF the way to go? I'm not into modding at the mo so best OOTB would be my choice? Any suggestions welcome? I may possibly revert to a black bezel if the green doesn't fit so would possibly need to mod it down the track?
You should check out the RAF thread, @Reaps recently picked one up and sounds happy with the purchase.
 
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OK so seriously looking for a kermit, so is RAF the way to go? I'm not into modding at the mo so best OOTB would be my choice? Any suggestions welcome? I may possibly revert to a black bezel if the green doesn't fit so would possibly need to mod it down the track?


None of the 3 options are the best, depends on what you can tolerate, I personally think RAF is best aesthetically but may have mechanical weakness, BP is budget but overall not the closest and also the hands are maxi hands, intolerable, ARF would be the choice if it didn't have godawful mismatch hands,
 
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Can you swap hands, dials, and bezel inserts between the current ARF and RAF?
 

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Yes, yes and I think so

The ARF bezel is gen spec but I think someone measured the ARF insert and found it to have a similar diameter to RAF, which is slightly smaller than gen hence the minor circumference gap.

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Some visuals. Horlogear insert on paper should have the same dimensions as RAF insert.



Thanks to @KJ2020 for the image.
 
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Thanks. Do you know whether the current ARF 16610LN has the same lume difference issue as the ARF 16610LV?
 

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No, the ARF LN doesn't have the miss-matched lume issue.
Hi, mine supposed to be an RAF LN has the miss matched lume hands


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FYI this is the arf LV lume mismatch I was talking about.

That's a real shame that your LN has an entirely different lume applied :(



All the info on this, comparison photos etc are all within this thread so don't take my word for it.

There is an equivalent RAF thread also.
 
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Does it makes any sense to buy RAF 16610LN and replace the movt with the VS3135?

With my dealer, the price gap is enough to buy a new VS3135 in the Taobao/1688.
 

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Been seeing resent QCs of ARF subs, and they all seem to have really weird/ ugly looking date wheels. I was wondering if ARF went back to using SH3135 instead of the VR3135 with crisp looking font.
Ill leave images attached, want to hear what the guys have to say!

Wasn't able to find same dates to compare but im sure you'll get the idea.

on left is older/ better looking qc
on Right is newer / Sh3135 looking qc



 

vm4sx

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Been seeing resent QCs of ARF subs, and they all seem to have really weird/ ugly looking date wheels. I was wondering if ARF went back to using SH3135 instead of the VR3135 with crisp looking font.
Ill leave images attached, want to hear what the guys have to say!

Wasn't able to find same dates to compare but im sure you'll get the idea.

on left is older/ better looking qc
on Right is newer / Sh3135 looking qc



The 3rd from the right side is mine, btw.
 

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These popped up on trusty today.

Challengers for the crown of best out of the box 16610, or amateur league?