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ARF silently released new 16610LN's and 16610LV's

Karbon74

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Have any of you guys here tried to age the ARF 16610LN dial?

I was thinking to put it a bit in the oven, but I'm a little bit worried.

Don’t do that.
The 5 digit Subs are relatively new watches. I mean not vintage

Plus the gen paint was more resistant that the 4 digits. Most gen 5 digits have impeccable dials.

You can very slightly age the hands if you want, and maybe a light oven run of the insert, but don’t touch the dial
 
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Don’t do that.
The 5 digit Subs are relatively new watches. I mean not vintage

Plus the gen paint was more resistant that the 4 digits. Most gen 5 digits have impeccable dials.

You can very slightly age the hands if you want, and maybe a light oven run of the insert, but don’t touch the dial

The result I would like to get is something like this, I saw some youtube videos and people there used the oven at low temperatures for a short time to get this creamy lume.

But if there's another way to get this, safer, I may prefer.

 

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The result I would like to get is something like this, I saw some youtube videos and people there used the oven at low temperatures for a short time to get this creamy lume.

But if there's another way to get this, safer, I may prefer.

Water color paint the lume....
 
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The result I would like to get is something like this, I saw some youtube videos and people there used the oven at low temperatures for a short time to get this creamy lume.

But if there's another way to get this, safer, I may prefer.

tritium vs luminova. only the tritium lume ages over time.
 
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Haven't had a good chance to check the thread, but what do most people prefer as a tool for changing their case tube? Mine is stripped and the 2.95mm one I bought from amazon didn't fit. Does anyone have some advice?

Thank you~
 
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Haven't had a good chance to check the thread, but what do most people prefer as a tool for changing their case tube? Mine is stripped and the 2.95mm one I bought from amazon didn't fit. Does anyone have some advice?

Thank you~
+1. also interested in this
 

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Haven't had a good chance to check the thread, but what do most people prefer as a tool for changing their case tube? Mine is stripped and the 2.95mm one I bought from amazon didn't fit. Does anyone have some advice?

Thank you~

Used this one for years, works fine
 

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Well well well... Got the new tool today, went to replace the crown tube, heated the watch up, and the crown tube broke in half, leaving the screwed in section in the watch.

Any ideas on how to extract this? Tried a triangular file, and that didn't seem to budge it. Thinking about soaking it in some acetone for a few hours and trying again.

Ugh what a headache this watch his been.
 

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Well well well... Got the new tool today, went to replace the crown tube, heated the watch up, and the crown tube broke in half, leaving the screwed in section in the watch.

Any ideas on how to extract this? Tried a triangular file, and that didn't seem to budge it. Thinking about soaking it in some acetone for a few hours and trying again.

Ugh what a headache this watch his been.
Did you use the proper tool? There's a tool for removing the unscrewing the crown tube.
 

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Did you use the proper tool? There's a tool for removing the unscrewing the crown tube.
I bought the crown tube tool that was linked earlier by Perpetual. Fit perfectly. Heated the watch up with a soldering iron in direct contact for three minutes and twisted extremely slowly, yet it still broke in half.

At this point, it's really been a headache. I still want to troubleshoot on my own at home, otherwise I might drop it off at a watchmaker soon and just bite the bullet.

If anyone has suggestions for ways to get the broken tube out, I'd love to hear it. Currently sitting in acetone to dissolve the loctite that I imagine is still in there.
 
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soyuzrep

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I really don't want to have to buy a new case because I've already got quite a bit sunk into this watch.
 

soyuzrep

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A screw extractor can do the trick to get a stuck tube out.
Do you have any suggestions? Living in Korea, the screw extractors I can find easily tend to be the cone shaped ones. Would this world fine?
 

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Yeah that should be fine.
I'll order a set and give it a go. If it fucks up, I'll just get a quote from a watch maker to drill it out/retep. If that doesn't work, guess we're getting a new Sillian case.
 
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Another option is to use a 2.65mm drill bit and attach it to something that allows you to turn in slowly by hand and to apply some force. Like a tap wrench for example. Then it may be possible to turn the tube clockwise so that it gets pushed into the watch case.

The above method should work on the following assumptions:
1. The tube snapped clean and is not a wider diameter at the part that broke off
2. The 2.65mm drill is sharp and new so it can bite into the end of the (softer) tube
3. There is no loctite holding the tube in place but to be sure, you could try an old drill bit that fiis inside the tube and blast the sticking out end of it with heat from a torch or soldering iron but it will have to be a powerful one 80-100w.
4. You have removed the movement from the case (I’m sure you have)

Hope that helps and maybe worth a try
 
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Another option is to use a 2.65mm drill bit and attach it to something that allows you to turn in slowly by hand and to apply some force. Like a tap wrench for example. Then it may be possible to turn the tube clockwise so that it gets pushed into the watch case.

The above method should work on the following assumptions:
1. The tube snapped clean and is not a wider diameter at the part that broke off
2. The 2.65mm drill is sharp and new so it can bite into the end of the (softer) tube
3. There is no loctite holding the tube in place but to be sure, you could try an old drill bit that fiis inside the tube and blast the sticking out end of it with heat from a torch or soldering iron but it will have to be a powerful one 80-100w.
4. You have removed the movement from the case (I’m sure you have)

Hope that helps and maybe worth a try
Yeah, I've got about 3 steps I'm going to try now. Need to wait for the extractor set to arrive and see if that works after a little WD40 bath.

The snap is pretty clean. It's completely even around the round part that's visible in the threads. The tube seems to be even diameter from the broken part, measured.

I am worried that there is loctite holding in place, because I took the precautions to heat it up, chemically loosen, and used an appropriate tool, but it still broke off. I even took a soldering iron to it for a good bit of time before I tried, and it still snapped.

Everything has been removed from the case. It's just the bare case.

I'll give it a go if nothing else works, before dropping it off at a watchmaker.

I really appreciate you guys helping me out here. This watch has been nothing but headache after headache, despite good QC. I just want to wear a 5 digit, dammit!
 
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