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I think I'd be going this direction if i wanted a good, lug holes case: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/403983056748
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ARF silently released new 16610LN's and 16610LV's
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It’s been on my watch list for a bit. There was someone on here working with him to make some changes to the profile, would like to see if there are any improvements to it in the near future.
Crush as in take the endlink apart into three pieces and reshape the side pieces?
he means to lower the top exposed part and shape the lower part between the crown
So much good information here, thank you to everyone for commenting. I took a read through the new BP 5-digit sub thread as well and now I'm stuck in analysis paralysis as to which 16610LN to lean toward for best out the box since I don't trust myself to mod any of my reps 
Hi, I want to change my ARF 116610 crystal but pure time only has crystal made from GMF. Can they fit to my ARF watch?
or if there are other options for Crystal, please suggest. Thank you
or if there are other options for Crystal, please suggest. Thank you
Okay I'm even more confused now. What does the crown have to do with any of that if you don't mind my question?
hi,
on my raf/arf 16610 I installed a crystal vs for sub 40 so yes it is compatible
Ah ok. I don’t have a choice, because arf ran out of stock. Currently I’m using Prof crystal. But the AR wear off a little so i gotta change it
I have had crystals from the prof in the past
I honestly don't like them
try looking for a crystal vs from some td or on the forum market
I honestly don't like them
try looking for a crystal vs from some td or on the forum market
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So much good information here, thank you to everyone for commenting. I took a read through the new BP 5-digit sub thread as well and now I'm stuck in analysis paralysis as to which 16610LN to lean toward for best out the box since I don't trust myself to mod any of my reps
I'm no expert, but these are things I personally noticed:
Image 1:
Red: BPF has a much thicker chamfer than ARF. ARF is more gen like
Green: BPF has slightly deeper SEL height; BPF is more gen like (?)
Yellow: BPF has smaller bezel "crinkles" than ARF. ARF is more gen like. Also, BPF uses 6-digit Bezel assembly (From what I hear). Also, BPF bezel insert is not compatible with ARF or Gen without thinning the bezel insert.
Blue: BPF has crisper and thinner datewheel font than ARF. BPF more gen like.
Image 2:
Red: BPF bracelet comes with polished sides; They messed this up by switching 16610 and 16600 bracelets. ARF is more gen like.
Blue: BPF bezel is thicker than ARF. ARF more gen like.
Green: BPF has slightly thinner caseback than ARF.
Image 3:
I know there is a confusion about SH3135 v2 vs VR3135, and factories merging etc.
But the movements in ARF and BPF are definitely different (according to Trusty's images).
Red: BPF shock absorber setting has a slightly wider mouth than ARF.
Green: engravement quality is much different on BPF than ARF. BPF looks like it's more deeply and crisply engraved than ARF.
Blue: Finishing is different between BPF and ARF.
Maybe rumors are true and SH/VR are merged. Maybe the Trusty examples are just different 3135 batches from same factory. Or perhaps the rumors are wrong. But at least from Trusty's images, BPF looks like a better movement quality than ARF.
These are just stuff I noticed. I know crownguard shape is something a lot of others point out, but I personally can't really tell much of a difference (I'd be open to someone explaining the difference).
I went with BP due to price difference, but having mixed feelings now.
ARF better in some aspects, BPF better in others. Also the possibility of different movement qualities.
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This is what came in my ARF that arrived yesterday.I'm no expert, but these are things I personally noticed:
Image 1:
Red: BPF has a much thicker chamfer than ARF. ARF is more gen like
Green: BPF has slightly deeper SEL height; BPF is more gen like (?)
Yellow: BPF has smaller bezel "crinkles" than ARF. ARF is more gen like. Also, BPF uses 6-digit Bezel assembly (From what I hear). Also, BPF bezel insert is not compatible with ARF or Gen without thinning the bezel insert.
Blue: BPF has crisper and thinner datewheel font than ARF. BPF more gen like.
Image 2:
Red: BPF bracelet comes with polished sides; They messed this up by switching 16610 and 16600 bracelets. ARF is more gen like.
Blue: BPF bezel is thicker than ARF. ARF more gen like.
Green: BPF has slightly thinner caseback than ARF.
Image 3:
I know there is a confusion about SH3135 v2 vs VR3135, and factories merging etc.
But the movements in ARF and BPF are definitely different (according to Trusty's images).
Red: BPF shock absorber setting has a slightly wider mouth than ARF.
Green: engravement quality is much different on BPF than ARF. BPF looks like it's more deeply and crisply engraved than ARF.
Blue: Finishing is different between BPF and ARF.
Maybe rumors are true and SH/VR are merged. Maybe the Trusty examples are just different 3135 batches from same factory. Or perhaps the rumors are wrong. But at least from Trusty's images, BPF looks like a better movement quality than ARF.
These are just stuff I noticed. I know crownguard shape is something a lot of others point out, but I personally can't really tell much of a difference (I'd be open to someone explaining the difference).
I went with BP due to price difference, but having mixed feelings now.
ARF better in some aspects, BPF better in others. Also the possibility of different movement qualities.
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Horlogear or the Alibaba equivalent are good bets. Also might look at Cousins UK.
Anyone tried any bracelet with glidelock on the 16610LV? I'm looking for any options - thanks!
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I just put a glidelock clasp on my stock ARF 16610Lv bracelet.
Thanks! Any factory that you'd recommend? I only found a glidelock on raffles.