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ARF silently released new 16610LN's and 16610LV's
- Thread starter vince23
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Thanks for the measurements bro. This would imply the ARF bezel isn't gen-spec and won't take a gen insert (without shaving it or the bezel). Gen 16610 and 16710 inserts are 37.65mm OD.This is stock ARF.
EDIT: Looking back at your stock ARF bezel pics and comparing them to the new insert pics, I think the ARF bezel is gen-spec because there are similar obvious gaps between the insert outer perimeter and the bezel rim. There are no visible gaps at all when the parts are gen or gen-spec.
I've been through this numerous times with BP bezels, their inserts are also ~37.4mm. But BP bezels are also narrower than gen so there are no gaps and they won't take a gen-spec insert without something being shaved.
Sometimes you can bend a too large insert upward all the way around in the center to reduce its OD. Placing an insert over a wine bottle and gently pressing the outer edges down can accomplish this for example. But it's never fun when the bezel rim is too small.
Here's a Startime bezel I had to shave the ID on to fit a gen insert.
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FYI the Horlogear is buy one get one 1/2 off direct from their website. Had I known that before I would have gotten an LN, too.
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Hmmmm... buy two and get one free... could have all 3 colours for £102+shipping, which is starting to feel more reasonable.
Gotta take a bottle of wine because of you now, drinking for scienceThanks for the measurements bro. This would imply the ARF bezel isn't gen-spec and won't take a gen insert (without shaving it or the bezel). Gen 16610 and 16710 inserts are 37.65mm OD.
EDIT: Looking back at your stock ARF bezel pics and comparing them to the new insert pics, I think the ARF bezel is gen-spec because there are similar obvious gaps between the insert outer perimeter and the bezel rim. There are no visible gaps at all when the parts are gen or gen-spec.
I've been through this numerous times with BP bezels, their inserts are also ~37.4mm. But BP bezels are also narrower than gen so there are no gaps and they won't take a gen-spec insert without something being shaved.
Sometimes you can bend a too large insert upward all the way around in the center to reduce its OD. Placing an insert over a wine bottle and gently pressing the outer edges down can accomplish this for example. But it's never fun when the bezel rim is too small.
Here's a Startime bezel I had to shave the ID on to fit a gen insert.
My QC Pics. When I get the watch I'll decide to keep, Frankin or sell. Will post an update when it's in my hands.
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The main motivation behind this purchase was to see if I like the case/size. I've been eyeing a 14060m for a while now - this may help me pull the trigger. Since the 14060 only came with hollow end links, I'd be curious if this bracelet would fit.
Either way, I might play around with this and do a bezel change and upgrade to a VS3135 ( I have a spare).
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The 14060 is on my short list of gen purchases, especially since there are no real rep options for it.
Well you could do a 16610 base, with a gen 14060 dial (If you can live with the ghost date
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That wouldn't work. Gen 14060 dial is smaller than the 16610 dial. In fact, the 14060 case, bezel, and crystal are smaller than the 16610.Well you could do a 16610 base, with a gen 14060 dial (If you can live with the ghost date
Raffledial has a 14060 rep dial that you could use in a 16610.
Very very nice…Let us see it when it arrives! ThanksMy QC Pics. When I get the watch I'll decide to keep, Frankin or sell. Will post an update when it's in my hands.
Hmm. I didn't know Raffle made dials for a 3135 clone.
I'm ok with keeping the 16610 rep - will make a good watch for timing how long I'm out playing with the dog while smoking a cigar, haha.
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And this is why 14060 is something I'd buy in gen.
HMU if you decide to sell...My QC Pics. When I get the watch I'll decide to keep, Frankin or sell. Will post an update when it's in my hands.
How did you shave the ID of the bezel? I recently destroyed a gen insert trying to fit it into a Viet bezel. Heartbreaking.Thanks for the measurements bro. This would imply the ARF bezel isn't gen-spec and won't take a gen insert (without shaving it or the bezel). Gen 16610 and 16710 inserts are 37.65mm OD.
EDIT: Looking back at your stock ARF bezel pics and comparing them to the new insert pics, I think the ARF bezel is gen-spec because there are similar obvious gaps between the insert outer perimeter and the bezel rim. There are no visible gaps at all when the parts are gen or gen-spec.
I've been through this numerous times with BP bezels, their inserts are also ~37.4mm. But BP bezels are also narrower than gen so there are no gaps and they won't take a gen-spec insert without something being shaved.
Sometimes you can bend a too large insert upward all the way around in the center to reduce its OD. Placing an insert over a wine bottle and gently pressing the outer edges down can accomplish this for example. But it's never fun when the bezel rim is too small.
Here's a Startime bezel I had to shave the ID on to fit a gen insert.
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One instance where the BP 16610 narrower bezel and insert pays off, haha.
