ARF 126334 DateJust 41, Best in the market

[Dannycany]

Has anyone ever seen a rep with the “Wimbledon” dial? I’d love to get that dial


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[saxo]

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDE0NjA1MTEyOA==.html?sharekey=7a0bfcb7bc63cbc323c344f0f86ad29a9
Again here is the video of comparison vs gen...
at 15 min you can see that the time seting is the same as gen

I understand chinese. So here's summary of the whole video's comparisons.

Intro: Left gen right ARF. Both taken under natural sunlight. Gen (loan from customer) is like new condition, unworn. ARF is used.

Dial: Dial colour is spot on. Facing the sunlight, both similar. Away from sunlight ARF's sunburst is more obvious(?).

Weight: Both full links. ARF lighter due to ss bezel instead of gen's 18k wg.

Dimensions: As per video. Such a small difference is hard to tell with naked eyes.

Bezel: Gen is brighter, but hard to tell unless with gen beside.

Lugs/SEL: Same as gen.

Bracelet: ARF center polished links, feels like gen.

Clasp: ARF has a tighter fit. Gen has a larger gap when closed. ARF crown on clasp slightly different, referring to the hole in the crown. Laser etching inside all similar. Easy link same as gen.


Caseback: Similar to gen.

Crown: Unable to tell the difference. Similar dimensions.

DW: ARF bolder. Gen varies. ARF DW batches varies as well.

Dial: ARF has bolder fonts. Difference under 6 marker, gen has a crown and ARF has a "30", due to difference in period, ARF follows older dj41.

Rehaut: Similar to gen. ARF slightly bolder.

Lume: Unable to test. Through customers review both are exactly the same.

Pinon: Gen is capped. ARF has a hole, due to 2824 movement.

Movement: Winding same as gen. ARF uses Hangzhou 2824, can be swapped for ETA. Winding on A2824 does not feel like gen, feels "heavier" and louder.

Summary: ARF made the dj41 very close to gen, even the sound of the clasp locking. (Carries on to showcase gen and ARF)

End.

Note: These are not my opinions, just a summarised translation of whatever the video is saying. Hope this helps.











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[Bobi01]

Thanks a lot and it looks it is very good rep but one thing confusing me,we can see on video that SEL and case lugs arent the same and how he cant see this with naked eye

 

[styleless]

Thank you very much for the summary. Very useful and I think the guy in the video nailed it with his review

 

[saxo]

Thanks a lot and it looks it is very good rep but one thing confusing me,we can see on video that SEL and case lugs arent the same and how he cant see this with naked eye

I honestly couldnt see the difference. How are they different? ARF lugs are more curved?

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[Bobi01]

I honestly couldnt see the difference. How are they different? ARF lugs are more curved?

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Yeah arf lugs are little bit rounded instead of sharp gen lugs and look SEL with lugs position when you look it direct to dial (first two images)... Gen is left and arf right

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[dustimage]

saxo Thank you so much for the translation

 

[mega12]

Wow great. Would love to see the same with gray dial and Jubilee. I think this will be my next watch. DateDisc and crystal can be replaced and it’s perfect. Just be careful, 3135 Date Disc won’t fit as an overlay. You need 3187 / 3136 DateDisc.

 

[Dannycany]

After owning the arf datejust for a couple of weeks now, I’d say the worst feature is the cyclops. It’s very different to gen in relation to how lights affect it. It’s sometimes difficult to see the date, you have to turn away from the light.

Can anyone steer me into the right place to be able to modify this?


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[joyjoyk]

Great vid, though it does seem to show the gen blue dial to be slightly darker. Could be just the position of the dial.. wish he swapped positions half way through

 

[mastercoll]

3135 Date Disc won’t fit as an overlay. You need 3187 / 3136 DateDisc.

Are u sure about theese specs? It should be really interesting...
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[freediver]

stolen from here


<<However, there is a big BUT!!!! that I had to realize and wasted 100€... Gen 3135/3186 DateDisc DOESN’T work as well!!! 41mm Datejust models and 42mm Explorer are using a different DateDisc which is wider because of different diameter. Sounds logical, but to figure out that this is the case we already cut the date teeth of my gen 3135 and realized that it’s completely left oriented.... At the beginning we didn’t know the reason until another great member supported us (BananSplit) and shared that we need 3187 Date Disc. Thus, I spent another 130€ for a gen one. Ado213 did a great job and fitted this as a DWO. It’s now in the same tolerance as gens are. So really good!>>

https://forum.replica-watch.info/fo...nken-explorer-ii-216570-bd-42mm-guide-noob-bp

 

[mastercoll]

stolen from here


<<However, there is a big BUT!!!! that I had to realize and wasted 100€... Gen 3135/3186 DateDisc DOESN’T work as well!!! 41mm Datejust models and 42mm Explorer are using a different DateDisc which is wider because of different diameter. Sounds logical, but to figure out that this is the case we already cut the date teeth of my gen 3135 and realized that it’s completely left oriented.... At the beginning we didn’t know the reason until another great member supported us (BananSplit) and shared that we need 3187 Date Disc. Thus, I spent another 130€ for a gen one. Ado213 did a great job and fitted this as a DWO. It’s now in the same tolerance as gens are. So really good!>>

https://forum.replica-watch.info/fo...nken-explorer-ii-216570-bd-42mm-guide-noob-bp

thanks so much @freediver!
Now I have to look for a 3187 data wheel (and it seems not easy to me...)

 

[olivotorcio]

Freediver007 Hello, thanks for this. I had the same problem with the ARF DJ 41mm Datedisc, i bought the wrong datedisc then numbers didn’t arrived at the window in the correct way. Now i want to try the datedisc you posted, do you know where i can find it? Gen or replica, i’m searching on ebay but nothing to do...i’m hopeless ????

 

[freediver]

Freediver007 Hello, thanks for this. I had the same problem with the ARF DJ 41mm Datedisc, i bought the wrong datedisc then numbers didn’t arrived at the window in the correct way. Now i want to try the datedisc you posted, do you know where i can find it? Gen or replica, i’m searching on ebay but nothing to do...i’m hopeless ????

There you go m8, i saved you !

https://forum.replica-watch.info/forum/watch-parts-and-accessories/7753870-gen-rolex-3235-dw

 

[mega12]

I‘m wondering if all new movements will accept this date disc. Also 40mm watches.

 

[pelusito]

Wow great. Would love to see the same with gray dial and Jubilee. I think this will be my next watch. DateDisc and crystal can be replaced and it’s perfect. Just be careful, 3135 Date Disc won’t fit as an overlay. You need 3187 / 3136 DateDisc.

I think that 3235 overlay will fit also.

 

[saxo]

I think that 3235 overlay will fit also.

3136 DW should align, its used before the 3235 came about in 2017.

The 3187 DW is made for gmt models, it may be misaligned even with the 3187 being 2mm wider than 3135. Has anyone tried this variation of mod?

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[Bobi01]

I would never give 130-150 dolars for date numbers and put on replica that have self (little bolder numbers)

 

[Suux88]

I don’t get what’s taking so long to release the jubilee


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jubilee is out bro...
https://puretime.io/featured-produc...teel-blue-dial-on-jubilee-bracelet-a2824.html