APSF just released their AP 15500 with SA4302 Super Clone Movement!!!

[OffshoreNL]

Just pulled the trigger and pre-ordered with Puretime. Went for the black dial but will try and source a gen dial. Maybe AMF can help?

 

[legend]

Just pulled the trigger and pre-ordered with Puretime. Went for the black dial but will try and source a gen dial. Maybe AMF can help?

If you’re after a gen dial get one now, as prices are rising, partly because the clone movement 15500 watches are released and guys are buying the dials to franken their watches.
From what I know personally at least 6 were sold in the last week alone from a single vendor.

 

[cranestep]

My opinion (and remember its only an opinion) is that if you want a very awesome looking AP Royal Oak on your wrist, which functions like the gen (date change wise), get the 15500 clone, get the gen dial installed (or a ZF dial), get the watch refinished, and you have a watch which can pass off as a gen on the streets. I am not saying anyone should buy this and pass it on as a gen for whatever purpose, but it can be passed off as a gen visually once certain things are done for this 15500 with clone movement, and minor things at that.

Hi legend, what's your idea on APSF 15500 dial this time? I found their white dial horrible, no reflection or sunburst at all, but black or blue seems ok to me, is there any problem with these color too?

By ZF dial do you mean the 15500 with 9015 movement they had before? Seems they will update 4302 too so the best option is to wait ZF?

 

[emdeevee]

Do you think from the factories this could be another step on the route of cloning APRO chrono movements?

This would sell a shit ton of watches for sure.

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[OffshoreNL]

If you’re after a gen dial get one now, as prices are rising, partly because the clone movement 15500 watches are released and guys are buying the dials to franken their watches.
From what I know personally at least 6 were sold in the last week alone from a single vendor.

Prices are quite high from what I can find. The cheapest genuine black dial is listed for $3,5k. Will only get worse indeed

If this review is accurate: https://www.noob2.com/20413.html - then the dial is far off from the gen. Looks like a few shades lighter than the gen and probably no or very little sunburst effect.
I'll wait for the QC from puretime and depending on that I will decide if I'll buy the gen dial. On the grey market a 15550ST.03 is fetching $50 - 70k right now, so would end up paying right around or below 10% for a proper rep including gen dial and mods.

Wanted to quit this hobby and stick to gens but it's an addiction.. screw you APSF lol

 

[GGEuroHEADSHOT]

The quick date change has been desactivated on 15202 ZF. I thought there was a problem but ZF wanted to make it like gen

I thought the ZF rep has the quick set date vs. Gen doesn’t? Am I missing something?

 

[Yacht-Monster]

My opinion (and remember its only an opinion) is that if you want a very awesome looking AP Royal Oak on your wrist, which functions like the gen (date change wise), get the 15500 clone, get the gen dial installed (or a ZF dial), get the watch refinished, and you have a watch which can pass off as a gen on the streets. I am not saying anyone should buy this and pass it on as a gen for whatever purpose, but it can be passed off as a gen visually once certain things are done for this 15500 with clone movement, and minor things at that.

Thanks for the solid opinion. How would you say this APSF compares to the ZF 15400 with the 3120 clone movement (not withstanding the date function)?

Wasn't the ZF 15400 with the 3120 almost spot on a a rep when the V2 was released?

Excuse my ignorance with this, I've ignored AP until recently. Thanks in advance.

 

[legend]

Thanks for the solid opinion. How would you say this APSF compares to the ZF 15400 with the 3120 clone movement (not withstanding the date function)?

Wasn't the ZF 15400 with the 3120 almost spot on a a rep when the V2 was released?

Excuse my ignorance with this, I've ignored AP until recently. Thanks in advance.

I would not call the clone 15400 “spot on”. The caliber plates are poorly finished compared with the gen, hands are off, dials are inaccurate and overall finish is relatively poor.
I know guys who frankened the 15400 with gen parts and think that they have a 1:1 watch and I would say that visually, this is possible only minimally with a gen dial, hands and movement (complete with dw and rotor) but not without.

 

[Yacht-Monster]

I would not call the clone 15400 “spot on”. The caliber plates are poorly finished compared with the gen, hands are off, dials are inaccurate and overall finish is relatively poor.
I know guys who frankened the 15400 with gen parts and think that they have a 1:1 watch and I would say that visually, this is possible only minimally with a gen dial, hands and movement (complete with dw and rotor) but not without.

Thanks mate, one final opinion from you please. Would you say this APSF 15500 is closer OOTB than the ZF 15400 3120?

Sorry to put you in the spot, but I was about to put money down on the ZF 15400 tool this thread started.

Thanks again.

 

[legend]

Thanks mate, one final opinion from you please. Would you say this APSF 15500 is closer OOTB than the ZF 15400 3120?

Sorry to put you in the spot, but I was about to put money down on the ZF 15400 tool this thread started.

Thanks again.

I have replied this earlier actually and the answer is yes the APSF 15500 beats the zf15400 overall for me.

 

[Yacht-Monster]

I have replied this earlier actually and the answer is yes the APSF 15500 beats the zf15400 overall for me.

Oops, you did. Thanks again, much appreciated.

 

[VenomGT3]

Any updates on this? QC’s etc

 

[Virpag]

Any updates on this? QC’s etc

i posted my QC a few pages back

 

[Jack Liu]

Some QC pics posted by my trusted dealer，waiting for it's
arrival

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[legend]

Some QC pics posted by my trusted dealer，waiting for it's
arrival

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Watch looks good. The date font is a little off but for a rep that looks remarkable, everything considered. Congrats and looking forward to your wrist pics.

 

[Fettekatze]

The blue looks like a color improvement. Can't quite tell yet with black or white. But the gray dial on this definitely looks too dark. The ZF was already darker than gen.

 

[OffshoreNL]

The rose gold models disappeared from Puretimes website. Are they sold out already?

 

[johnlogan]

Awaiting QCs from PT on the black dial. Excited

 

[johnlogan]

The rose gold models disappeared from Puretimes website. Are they sold out already?

Release is probably pending ! They will reappear at a later date.

 

[johnlogan]

legend Im contemplating adding a rubber strap on this. Is the lug size 26mm?