That dial is an absolute stunner! If you don't mind me asking, what factory and when did you order?
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APSF and ZF Royal Oak 15500 w 4302 clone caliber
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Well, I think if anyone on RWI knows, it should be the one with the largest only-gen collection, so I won't disagree.
ZF V3. Bought this last year circa late November / early December. It arrived the day before Xmas eve. Perfect timing and a great little Xmas gift to myself.
Hello,
My very first rep (AP RO 15500ST ZF v3) finally landed the other day. Unfortunately, it did that flat on it's face, figuratively speaking. On the outside the watch itself is beautiful and came unscathed (package in tip-top condition). Thing is, something must have happened to it's movement as it performs quite out or ordinary (for a newb like me, that is). At certain hours (though it could be completely random) hours' and minutes' hands stop, while the seconds' hand performs nicely, drawing smooth circles in 60 seconds at a time. When I manually set the time forward, it may work "ok" for minutes or hours and the history repeats.
Obviously, the watch needs a service. But before I take it to the watch smith, I would like to ask you experienced fellas, have you ever seen such an occurrence and know what might be the source of this issue?
Best regards,
Radosław
My very first rep (AP RO 15500ST ZF v3) finally landed the other day. Unfortunately, it did that flat on it's face, figuratively speaking. On the outside the watch itself is beautiful and came unscathed (package in tip-top condition). Thing is, something must have happened to it's movement as it performs quite out or ordinary (for a newb like me, that is). At certain hours (though it could be completely random) hours' and minutes' hands stop, while the seconds' hand performs nicely, drawing smooth circles in 60 seconds at a time. When I manually set the time forward, it may work "ok" for minutes or hours and the history repeats.
Obviously, the watch needs a service. But before I take it to the watch smith, I would like to ask you experienced fellas, have you ever seen such an occurrence and know what might be the source of this issue?
Best regards,
Radosław
gustavmahler
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By the way, my TD finally found a watch that works. From APSF. Not ZF. Not sure, but there may be some QC issues with ZF right now.
I am grateful that the TD was judicious enough to check out the watches prior to mailing.
Once arrived, I will show.
The QC photos were fine although the blue does not have the "luster " of a genuine, but hey, I am not trading my car in for a watch. Just not going out to dinner a few times
Thank you all of you for listening to me.
I am grateful that the TD was judicious enough to check out the watches prior to mailing.
Once arrived, I will show.
The QC photos were fine although the blue does not have the "luster " of a genuine, but hey, I am not trading my car in for a watch. Just not going out to dinner a few times
Thank you all of you for listening to me.
newrepper
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I tried a friends gen ap and was shocked by how the bracelet felt, I was not impressed at all.
Then my ZF came in and I thought wow bracelet feels kinda bad... but I remember gen feeling like that too... its just been a while and im wondering if i am remembering wrong.
Anyone who has gen and rep or has held both recently can chime on how bracelet quality compares ? Or were not impressed with how gen bracelet felt ?
Then my ZF came in and I thought wow bracelet feels kinda bad... but I remember gen feeling like that too... its just been a while and im wondering if i am remembering wrong.
Anyone who has gen and rep or has held both recently can chime on how bracelet quality compares ? Or were not impressed with how gen bracelet felt ?
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newrepper
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maybe thats the right way to describe it as fluid. How do you feel gen and rep bracelets compare
Cheesegrater
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I don’t have any AP reps …
But if you don’t like it then you just don’t like it.
That’s what matters
I got a moon swatch rep though!! Finally! Yea!
Ps: it’s a pos
Still waiting for a few pics of your gens, bro. And they don’t even have to be tagged.
Gen bracelets have slightly better finishing, but as for the feel of them, if you dont get a shit version with sharp edges (some gens have this too), then they are pretty much identical since 15400.
Even the ROO bracelet is pretty much the same.
What youre lookin for is Rlx and / or Patek.
Or vintage AP, something like 5402.
Even the ROO bracelet is pretty much the same.
What youre lookin for is Rlx and / or Patek.
Or vintage AP, something like 5402.
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Not familiar with gen 15500 bracelets, but I love the solid feel of these latest ZF's. My gen Datejust w/ jubilee bracelet is very fluid and smooth as butter which is nice, but there's something about the especially solid, industrial feel of the RO bracelets that I've really taken a liking to.
Why you ignoring me, bro?
One. Single. Photo. Of. One. Gen. Untagged is fine. You said earlier that you have gens so fabulous, rare, precious and so incredibly expensive, you could buy some other member's home if you sold just one. You keep regularly mentioning your gens, like in this thread. Yet, you never post any photos?
I'm dying to see just one. We love watches on here. Everyone here dies to see expensive gen watches. Don't tease us! Stop mentioning them if you refuse to share any pics.
It's torture!
I believe that maybe the gen bracelets have a very fine finishing that goes beyond what the reppers are willing to invest in labor time. Otherwise, there would be no business for the modders offering bracelet finishing mods.
However, I also believe that this difference in finishing is on a level that is not visible to the naked eye and only is different in the haptic experience.
When I compare gen photos to my 15500 ZF V3 bracelet, I can't visually make out any difference. But when touching, it feels like there's room for slight improvement. Not really too sharp, but somehow I suspect it's missing the final gen finesse.
Since I never touched the gen though, this is just an assumption and I could be wrong.
Miguel Piguet
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Steel Bracelets take some getting used to (rep or Gen). Offcourse Gen edges are less sharper but still can be uncomfortable with first wear, especially if you're used to rubber or leather straps. So just wear it well and admire
Comparing gen 155 to ZF V3 155, the bracelet has bevels on a slightly different angle, the brushing is slightly coarser, but imho its fine as it is. When I had my ZFv3 rebrushed by my guy that used to work for AP and actually does own the tools and machines that AP uses, even he said he wouldn't touch it. Bevels are imperceptible imho.I believe that maybe the gen bracelets have a very fine finishing that goes beyond what the reppers are willing to invest in labor time. Otherwise, there would be no business for the modders offering bracelet finishing mods.
However, I also believe that this difference in finishing is on a level that is not visible to the naked eye and only is different in the haptic experience.
When I compare gen photos to my 15500 ZF V3 bracelet, I can't visually make out any difference. But when touching, it feels like there's room for slight improvement. Not really too sharp, but somehow I suspect it's missing the final gen finesse.
Since I never touched the gen though, this is just an assumption and I could be wrong.
The difference between 154 and 155 is in the length of the strokes AP used. 154 was long strokes, 155 is much shorter and denser strokes in an uneven pattern.
You won the lottery with this one mate, by far the best colour on v3 Ive seen so far.
Im not sure, but I dont believe you had it refinished?
Nope bro. Completely out of the box... not even had a simple service with a watch smith, let alone any mods done.
Also, it is by far the most time-accurate OOTB rep I've personally seen / owned so far. Starting to ask myself whether ZF accidentally gave me the gen they used to model the rep after.
PS: I sometimes filter some of my photos for better colors or contrasts etc., but the one above is 100% untouched.