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APSF and ZF Royal Oak 15500 w 4302 clone caliber

Kei king

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本日受け取りました。
とても美しい時計です。
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いくつかのリストショットをお願いします、素敵な時計
 

letti001

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I meant if you had received the APSF yet. Would be nice to know what you think when it arrives.
I am in the midst of the order. I have not even received any APSF photos yet. The TD just informed me of the problems and asked if I would switch to APSF rather than ZF. I suspect the differences will be very minor but I can tolerate that issue for a watch that works.
This watch is to replace an Omega PO that all sorts of crown and then keless works issues.
Trying something different.
 
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slashdotcom1

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Which TD did you use?

I am in the midst of the order. I have not even received any APSF photos yet. The TD just informed me of the problems and asked if I would switch to APSF rather than ZF. I suspect the differences will be very minor but I can tolerate that issue for a watch that works.
This watch is to replace an Omega PO that all sorts of crown and then keless works issues.
Trying something different.
 

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I am in the midst of the order. I have not even received any APSF photos yet. The TD just informed me of the problems and asked if I would switch to APSF rather than ZF. I suspect the differences will be very minor but I can tolerate that issue for a watch that works.
This watch is to replace an Omega PO that all sorts of crown and then keless works issues.
Trying something different.

So you are getting a ZF 15500 but they said get the APSF instead because the ZF has issues??

I could have sworn Legend said ZF version is best. I could be wrong
 

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So you are getting a ZF 15500 but they said get the APSF instead because the ZF has issues??

I could have sworn Legend said ZF version is best. I could be wrong

@letti001 seems to be talking about issues with function, not form. He can correct me if I'm wrong.

FWIW, I've thus far had four of these new ZF 15500s in-hand and all of them have worked beautifully on my end.
 

letti001

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@letti001 seems to be talking about issues with function, not form. He can correct me if I'm wrong.

FWIW, I've thus far had four of these new ZF 15500s in-hand and all of them have worked beautifully on my end.
Correct on all accounts. The ZF version was not working correctly but looked good.
I was posting for a little help.
Do I ask for continued search for a ZF V3 that works?
Do I accept a APSF that works.

I do not mind waiting. No hurry for delivery.
 

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I wonder why he said the TD said ZF is not functioning well then.
There have been reports by users of the mainspring slipping and not keeping PR properly.
Little bit of spring brake solves this, so Im not sure why is it blown out of proportion either.
Maybe because that is the only... well not major, but I guess known... flaw of this model from ZF.
 

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There have been reports by users of the mainspring slipping and not keeping PR properly.
Little bit of spring brake solves this, so Im not sure why is it blown out of proportion either.
Maybe because that is the only... well not major, but I guess known... flaw of this model from ZF.
Looks like @serumwhiskey 's ZF 15500 have been good, all 4 of them.

I wonder what the % of the lemon is.

Spring brake? I can't do it myself can I?
 

letti001

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Looks like @serumwhiskey 's ZF 15500 have been good, all 4 of them.

I wonder what the % of the lemon is.

Spring brake? I can't do it myself can I?
There were two models from the Trusted Dealer that did not pass a quality check to be sent. One with date problems and the other with keyless works issue.
I have asked the TD to find an APSF model that works well.
I may not know enough to really notice the cosmetic differences, but I wouls vertainly notice teh date wheel not working nor the keyless works.
 

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Looks like @serumwhiskey 's ZF 15500 have been good, all 4 of them.

I wonder what the % of the lemon is.

Spring brake? I can't do it myself can I?
I'd say very small percentage.

If you are comfortable working on watches, you definitely can. You just have to get to the main spring barrel, take the spring out, put the brake on the inner rim and put it all back together. :) Simple, ey? 🤣
 

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I'd say very small percentage.

If you are comfortable working on watches, you definitely can. You just have to get to the main spring barrel, take the spring out, put the brake on the inner rim and put it all back together. :) Simple, ey? 🤣
Oh yea! Absolutely.

Would a torque wrench and Phillips screw driver from my car work on a ZF RO?

Oh I is zo schmart!
 
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I have the ZF V3 and the power reserve is worse than my miyota 15400, VSF Sub, and PPF Nautilus. I got it serviced and upgraded and it keeps time well and has decent reserve. I’m cautious to overwind it and I keep all 4 on a winder and it’s the only one that I need to manually wind occasionally. It’s beautiful and I don’t mind doing it, but annoying. It was completely dead after 2 months and that’s when I had to service it.
 

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I do not know what TD did you choose, but i ordered ZF last week, yesterday i received and approved the QC pic,

There were two models from the Trusted Dealer that did not pass a quality check to be sent. One with date problems and the other with keyless works issue.
I have asked the TD to find an APSF model that works well.
I may not know enough to really notice the cosmetic differences, but I wouls vertainly notice teh date wheel not working nor the keyless works.