I receive the new noob sub c LV this morning, and let just say that i was impressed by the dial really! i also have a noob LN and this LV dial is awesome! ( i ll post pics later) first the lume is much better applied than on the LN big difference... the sunburst is perfect. Also i was happy to see that the date is perfectly placed in the middle of the window i don't know if i was lucky but it is a big +. the bezel color is nice too can't really tell if it s the same color as gen on pics but i ll try to get my hands on a gen for comparison. So my final impression of this watch is that with just a fews mods it can be a real nice watch ( correct hour hand, AR cyclop, and superlume is for me the things to do) the pearl is nicely centered. but even without theses mods i think it is a nice out of box watch and on the wrist i m sure most of us would be able to live with the flaws... I ll try to catch everything in pics tomorrow...