Breitling Gen disappointment

[livefree]

Counterpoint!

First: "better than gen," I'll disagree. I've never seen a rep that looks "better" than the watch upon which it is based, but I digress.

In defense of OP, I made a similar post about gens a while ago without taking this absurd amount of heat. I feel like I am at a Star Wars convention and mispronounced "Dagobah."

I know it is "the Cardinal rule" but the ADs are not God-like. They are mall retail workers who wear suits (when few professionals even wear suits these days).

The average person on this forum knows FAR more about watches than the average AD guy/gal behind the counter (who care little about whether your watch is a rep or gen, as long as you look like a sucker).

I have owned maybe 30 gen Rolex, Breitling, whatever and have had many discussions with ADs at Mayors, etc. The consensus is, most of the people who come in the store are wearing reps, some who don't even know. I think most of the people on here must have never been to an AD. All these stories about snooty ADs calling people out on reps, I don't buy it.

I remember one sales rep saying they size bracelets for reps all day long, and often the guy in the back will put in better spring bars, all for free. This is a service based industry. They can't afford to antagonize some CEO who is too vapid to realize he bought a fake Daytona, so they just smile and get on with their lives. Asking an AD to fix your rep, on the other hand? LOL, have fun reading that letter from RSC.

Anyway, back on topic, yes, I had a gen SA and also had a rep SA with gen dial. That is the last $$$$ gen I will ever buy. I could not tell the difference between the two watches. An Asian 7750 is junk IMO compared to an ETA, but otherwise, if I wasn't aware of the miniscule differences, I would not be able to tell one from the other. Even The movement sounded the same.

That is when I swore off gens except for certain pieces, say a vintage Speedy Pro or a well priced 7750, like Marathon CSAR. You can buy a new 7750 for the price Breitling charges to throw some oil on theirs ("exaggeration," gentlemen). There are no precious metals on an SA. I like the designs but I swear my 90s Chronomats, they felt and looked special. The new breed, they just feel and look cheap. If Breitling cannot make a watch that looks/feels better than a rep for ten times the amount, sorry... I am one less sucker.

And the market isn't stupid, either. I sold my mint SA for $2,950, a huge loss after a few months, and I honestly felt sorry for the person paying that much for it, since it will probably be $1,950 in a year or so- about the price it should probably have cost new! ::grumble grumble where's my coffee::

The rampant judgmental behavior of people brought together for their mutual adoration of counterfeit products sometimes astounds me. Klonopin, gentlemen. Klonopin.

Edit: and if we are talking about "good behavior," Rolex et al. spend hundreds of millions to make insecure people feel like they aren't special or successful if they don't have a precious TT Sub. It is such BS. The vast majority of people who wear $4,000+ watches cannot afford to. Even if you can "afford" to, it is likely a terrible financial decision. There was a time when quality and workmanship justified and necessitated exorbitant prices, but these days, your precious ETA assembled by a robot might as well be a Seiko (which is at least priced realistically).


Sent from my SPH-L900 using Tapatalk 2

well said!

 

[lud]

I think he's using the American vernacular, to be hated on. Meaning to get a hard time from someone. I didn't read it that he felt you hated him in the literal sense, just that "boss hated".


Sent from my L96A1 using a 7.62mm round

this

 

[d4m.test]

lots of people here insulted me, not the other way. I wrote enough times that I respect different opinions, but , please reread the whole thread, they always tried to bring something up I never did and will never do.

What you did was wrong. It isn't as bad as some people are saying, but it was still wrong.

If you sneak in a McDonald's cheeseburger into a nice restaurant and eat it when nobody is looking, that would be wrong. Nobody saw or cared, but it's still rude.

If you can't see that, there's something seriously wrong here.

 

[d4m.test]

I think everyone needs to cut OP some slack, he was out to make a constructive thread but in turn received a massive burning albeit he made a bit of a mistake.. He clearly wasn't trying to cause any arguments and has repeatedly said so, also English isn't his first language.

Now I think everyone should take the advise of pecman, stop bickering like a bunch of women and let it slide.

 

[tommy_boy]

Still not sure who I racially insulted.

I'm sure me somehow. :lol:

Canadians. :spike: Can't live with them, can't live with them.

Just a buncha hockey watchin' beer drinkin' moose lovers, I say. Too many of those Tim Horton's places. Make ya fat. And what's up with all that French? Send 'em all back to, um, England and France and wherever, I say.







:lol:

 

[frigpig]

Canadians. :spike: Can't live with them, can't live with them.

Just a buncha hockey watchin' beer drinkin' moose lovers, I say. Too many of those Tim Horton's places. Make ya fat. And what's up with all that French? Send 'em all back to, um, England and France and wherever, I say.







:lol:

icard2:

 

[TESLA760]

Canadians. :spike: Can't live with them, can't live with them.

Just a buncha hockey watchin' beer drinkin' moose lovers, I say. Too many of those Tim Horton's places. Make ya fat. And what's up with all that French? Send 'em all back to, um, England and France and wherever, I say.







:lol:

icard:

Seriously ? I've traveled through Canada many times. We can learn a lot from them.

 

[n3tph4t]

Canadians. :spike: Can't live with them, can't live with them.

Just a buncha hockey watchin' beer drinkin' moose lovers, I say. Too many of those Tim Horton's places. Make ya fat. And what's up with all that French? Send 'em all back to, um, England and France and wherever, I say.







:lol:

Don't you dare send them here, we had a hard enough time getting rid of the yanks and the aussies without having to cope with all that "eh?" crap :snort:

opcorn:

 

[tommy_boy]

icard2:

OK, not my best, "mocking of racists" post.


Of course I was kidding, guys.

 

[n3tph4t]

well said!

Why quote a massive post just for that? I never get that. Ellipsis (...) can work wonders here instead.

Still, compared to quoting 40 images, it's a minor point, just a little bugging.

 

[frigpig]

OK, not my best, "mocking of racists" post.


Of course I was kidding, guys.

I know you were messing!

Hey where did my shiny balls quote go?!?!?!

 

[tommy_boy]

Hey where did my shiny balls quote go?!?!?!

Fixed.

 

[mikeyp]

I really do love this forum guys but reading threads like this make me wonder about some of you it really does there are so many good things about being here but the shite thats been spouted in this thread !!!! Seriously who's gives a **** who wears what to where !!!

 

[d4m.test]

Seriously who's gives a **** who wears what to where !!!

I agree to a certain point. It's a deal, but not a big deal.

Just remember that minor criticism on the internet is often misinterpreted as angry rants. Just because the majority of the forum disagrees doesn't mean we're ready to lynch anyone.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

 

[reppin]

oh please, when sellers or buyers of fake watches that are illegal try and ease their conscience by showing "respect" to the dealers i can only laugh. the op did nothing wrong as long as it did not bother him. nobody here has the moral authority to dictate what is and isn`t repectful. you have a fake watch on your hand, whether you in an ad or your living room. if you were so respectful you wouldnt be dealing with replica versions of their products.

this is like criminals in jail who beat other prisoners for certain crimes as if they have any moral authority to look down on anybody haha get over it

 

[d4m.test]

this is like criminals in jail who beat other prisoners for certain crimes as if they have any moral authority to look down on anybody haha get over it

You have it all wrong. Let's try another analogy.

Smoke pot in a small town where nobody cares is OK.

Smoking pot in a small town on the mayor's front lawn and taunting him leads to a town wide crackdown on marijuana.

Kapeesh?

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

 

[infiniG]

You have it all wrong. Let's try another analogy.

Smoke pot in a small town where nobody cares is OK.

Smoking pot in a small town on the mayor's front lawn and taunting him leads to a town wide crackdown on marijuana.

Kapeesh?

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

well put...

point in hand is that you don't want to wear a rep to a AD as they represent/pride the brand.

i guess it could be worse...you could be wearing a rep to the manufacturers headquarters in which case you might get lynched:rofl:

 

[frigpig]

I really do love this forum guys but reading threads like this make me wonder about some of you it really does there are so many good things about being here but the shite thats been spouted in this thread !!!! Seriously who's gives a **** who wears what to where !!!

Maybe everyone who thinks this is not a big deal at all should read THE RULES ON THE MATTER! Pay close attention to section F, subsection 4.

Pay also close attention to the first sentence.............

From the RWI constitution.

F)The following categories are grounds for instant banning:

1) spammers and scammers: do not join RWI to post porn, peddle software and DVD's, or to sell your erectile dysfunction medications. Any moderator or admin can ban, and we're all just dying to do it.

2) do not post pictures or references to your rep watch on forums for genuine watches. Replicas are legal to purchase in the US, but not in all countries, and they are illegal to manufacture and sell everywhere. Yes, certainly Rolex knows they exist, and they undoubtedly know about these forums as well, but there is no need to call attention to ourselves, or to demonstrate to the world how good the imitations have become.

3) obvious attempts to shill for non-trusted dealers

4) no stories about reps to AD's, if you do it, we don't want to hear about it. We do not encourage these types of activities.

G) Other Watch Forums: RWI is one of four major watch forums. Some people are members of all four forums. We would like to maintain a collegial relationship amongst all the forums. Friendly competition is okay. Badmouthing another forum is not. Badmouthing RWI on another forum is even worse, if that wasn't obvious.

H) We expect all members to treat each other with courtesy, respect, and honesty. In particular, we would like to see all parties deal fairly in sales transactions, both in dealer transactions and member to member ones. We expect dealers to treat members fairly, and in return, we expect members to treat dealers with equal honesty. If a dealer refunds a watch, we require the member to return the watch as instructed. Dealers should not be required to repair watches which are damaged by the buyer, or to refund watches which show signs of use by the buyer. Chargebacks, as previously stated, are to be used only in cases of last resort.

 

[Rudy40]

Maybe everyone who thinks this is not a big deal at all should read THE RULES ON THE MATTER! Pay close attention to section F, subsection 4.

Pay also close attention to the first sentence.............

From the RWI constitution.

F)The following categories are grounds for instant banning:

1) spammers and scammers: do not join RWI to post porn, peddle software and DVD's, or to sell your erectile dysfunction medications. Any moderator or admin can ban, and we're all just dying to do it.

2) do not post pictures or references to your rep watch on forums for genuine watches. Replicas are legal to purchase in the US, but not in all countries, and they are illegal to manufacture and sell everywhere. Yes, certainly Rolex knows they exist, and they undoubtedly know about these forums as well, but there is no need to call attention to ourselves, or to demonstrate to the world how good the imitations have become.

3) obvious attempts to shill for non-trusted dealers

4) no stories about reps to AD's, if you do it, we don't want to hear about it. We do not encourage these types of activities.

G) Other Watch Forums: RWI is one of four major watch forums. Some people are members of all four forums. We would like to maintain a collegial relationship amongst all the forums. Friendly competition is okay. Badmouthing another forum is not. Badmouthing RWI on another forum is even worse, if that wasn't obvious.

H) We expect all members to treat each other with courtesy, respect, and honesty. In particular, we would like to see all parties deal fairly in sales transactions, both in dealer transactions and member to member ones. We expect dealers to treat members fairly, and in return, we expect members to treat dealers with equal honesty. If a dealer refunds a watch, we require the member to return the watch as instructed. Dealers should not be required to repair watches which are damaged by the buyer, or to refund watches which show signs of use by the buyer. Chargebacks, as previously stated, are to be used only in cases of last resort.

I think you guys!
Should put this where you log in. This set of rules would be the first thing they see!

Becouse alot of people forget these basic rules. Which are very simple. And very easy to understand!

I think some just don't respect this forum! But for me I owe great respect
and gratatude for such a forum! Thank God I found this place!

Or I still be getting ripped off. It is a Honor and Previlege to be a member of this forum. And I will never forget that! Becouse it took me years and years to find this place!

Cheers!
Brothers!

 

[tommy_boy]

To imply that anyone taking the position stated in F.4. above is asserting their moral authority strikes me as argumentative at the least.

This is a forum. We are here to discuss watches and more. The ethical particulars of what this forum promotes can't be swept under the rug. It's the proverbial elephant in the room, too large to be covered by any rug.

Obviously there will always be opposing views on this matter. Wear your stolen IP anywhere you want, any time you want. The folks who run this place, and many members (I am among them) don't want to hear about your AD visit while wearing your rep.

Fair enough?