The 1016: The Under Appreciated Thread

[lg.visio]

Did you cover the lume before spraying or remove the paint afterwards? You can't really see any changes to your dial on the lume. In my case, it looks as if the lume changes a little due to the UV light. Or it was something else I did to the dial beforehand.

 

[Karbon74]

On dial work, you need to know when to stop.

Keep this one and make another one. Raffles dials are cheap.

If you push it more, you don’t know what will happen…and chances are you will regret it

This is spoken from personal experience, where I got a superb fluke result on an insert. I tried to improve it even further and ended up with shit

 

[lg.visio]

On dial work, you need to know when to stop.

Wise words!
Something like this happened to me with the UV experiment with the black raffles dial. I had it in front of the UV lamp for about 7 days - nothing happened. After that I wanted to at least tan the lume a little. Well, it did turn brown - and not too bad either. But the dial color burst open in all places. When I took it out of the oven, I burnt myself and the dial flew through the air in fright. It didn't really like the landing. The paint has flaked off almost everywhere on the underside.
Today I built a watch with the defective raffles dial together with my grandson. An old AliX case and a cheap 2813 movement plus a nato and the little man was happy with his ticktock.

 

[WatchN3RD]

Well.. I think my 'patina' went too far..

* gave the dial a light coat of Mr Hobby 'Mr Super Clear Matt' (lacquer) and let it dry for a few hours.
* Took a role of blue painters tape and made a tinfoil pocket inside.
* 405nm LED UV Light (~6w used for curing 3D prints)



~11 hour later (7pm to 6am).. I had this:



I wanted just a small amount of discoloration... not a pink dial

Do I keep going.. see if it ends up full tropical? Or leave it as is? I bought this dial to mess around with... what should my next move be?

I think you should try another test to see
1) Is the lacquer causing the pink?
2) Will the pink turn eventually turn to brown?

Perhaps you have a spare or junk dial to test so these results aren't destoyed?

 

[TheLost]

I think you should try another test to see
1) Is the lacquer causing the pink?
2) Will the pink turn eventually turn to brown?

Perhaps you have a spare or junk dial to test so these results aren't destoyed?

I 100% think the lacquer is causing the color change.. and that was my goal, to find out what type of lacquer would create a nice soft 'age' first (i was going for yellow/brown... not pinks and reds ).

The expert I asked (Mr Chat GPT) said that using 405nm UV would be slower than 365nm UV... but I think he was drunk because we colored up real-quick.

I have more dials incoming so I'm going full send on this one (still under the UV now).

To answer another question...
*I did not cover the Lume, just hit it with the Mr Clear... which is weird because the lume is still as green/yellow as the original dial. (again, maybe it is the dial turning.. and ChatGPT led me astray). I really wanted that lume to darken.

 

[Singapore9]

Not the right thread but has @TheLost or anyone tried the powerful UV lamps on bezel inserts for a few days...?

 

[lg.visio]

Not the right thread but has @TheLost or anyone tried the powerful UV lamps on bezel inserts for a few days...?

I once tried this with the same uv lamp that was used to age the albino dial. But it had no effect at all on the insert, at least not after maybe a week. However, it was also a cheap aliexpress insert, which even bleach and concentrated chlorine could not harm. (at least not the color - the aluminum on the back got pretty spotty)

I ordered the commando albino this time (and a few others, but in black)
There isn't really a gen dial for it - but that's what makes aging this dial so funny - you can do almost anything with it and claim that the original albino dial has aged in exactly the same way. It's just that nobody has seen it yet.

 

[TheLost]

I had the stupid idea of building

Not the right thread but has @TheLost or anyone tried the powerful UV lamps on bezel inserts for a few days...?

Funny you should ask.. I have a few 6538 bezels headed to me right now (along with a few 6538 dials). I plan to try both UV (without the lacquer) and the classic bleach... then pick the one i like best.

Back in late April, I had the crazy idea to build a display in my office showing the history/hits of the Explorer line (my daily is a GEN 114270). I think Ken is tired of my questions... but I have learned a TON.



6350 = NH35
Albino 1016 = SELLITA SW220 (i got brave and removed the day/date by swapping out the setting lever)
Space-Dweller = PT5000
1016 Tropic = $12 2824-clone 21600bph (that is keeping SHOCKING good time)

Now I'm just messing with spare dials, waiting for some more parts to mess with

 

[1016_idiot_savant]

Back in late April, I had the crazy idea to build a display in my office showing the history/hits of the Explorer line

I have a similar project under development

 

[lg.visio]

Wow - an absolute explorer fan boy. I can totally understand that - I've only been involved with watches for a short time - but I'm also a fan of the explorer.
Your watch box looks absolutely fantastic. You could almost be jealous of it. Where exactly did you say your office is?

 

[lg.visio]

You guys are more crazier than me - my wife will never believe me.

 

[1675lover]

anyone tried applying lacquer on a black 1016 dial + UV light burning?

 

[1675lover]

anyone tried applying lacquer on a black 1016 dial + UV light burning?

here's what i did - sprayed lacquer, chuck the dials under UV for 2 days
but nothing happened!

left - raffles dial from 2-3 years ago, note that the coronet is crap compared to the current version he sells
right - yuki dial, 12 o clock triangle did not melt under the UV; it was an experiment i did with paints to add some layers to the ever tiny teeny thin lume

side note the lacquer adds a very nice glossy layer on the dial.
if he ever sells a black gilt dial, i'll probably get one to swap out my current yuki dial (not pictured here)

 

[Mr.Monarce]

28.5mm Vintage Style Of 1016 Explorer Gilt Dial With Super Yellow Lume Marked Rolex Symbol fit ETA 2824 2836 DG 2813 Miyota 8215

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rafflesdials.com

 

[1016_idiot_savant]

I honestly believe I could keep these two, sell the rest and be satisfied for the rest of my days… game, set and match

 

[1675lover]

28.5mm Vintage Style Of 1016 Explorer Gilt Dial With Super Yellow Lume Marked Rolex Symbol fit ETA 2824 2836 DG 2813 Miyota 8215

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rafflesdials.com

this dial is inaccurate in many ways, i also hate chapter rings.

 

[Mr.Monarce]

Ah hell, I just wanted you to have options lol

 

[lg.visio]

My AliExpress haul landed yesterday.
Couple of cheapo movements, some cases, a few sets of hands - the usual suspects. This time: a DG2813 (a.k.a. the clunker that just won’t die but I was able to ruin the seconds post (or pinion?)) , an NH35A, and a PT5000 - my favorite.
Now just waiting on the Raffles drop, because I’m completely out of dials (again ).



The 36mm case actually isn’t half bad. Drilled lugs look decently shaped (in my opinion), nothing too janky. Crystal’s acrylic with a cyclops, and the bezel … mmmh, not exactly Rolex quality, let’s leave it at that.





Tried fitting a Sternkreuz T22, but it’s a touch too wide. Close, but no click. Rehaut’s barely 1mm tall, so there’s pretty much nothing for a crystal to bite into. Might end up gluing it on like a savage. Love this hobby.



Still not sure what I’m gonna do with the MilSub case. Originally planned to throw in the Albino Commando dial with MilSub hands, but now I’m tempted to go full "gen" rep MilSubstyle instead. Got the hands ready, but of course the Raffles MilSub dial doesn’t fit the NH35. Naturally.

Also: Never used dial dots or dial feet glue before - and knowing my coordination, it’s either going to hold for life (6 at 12 position) … or it will turn in the watch like these roulette wheels.
I think I'll get a MilSub dial after all. And then maybe use a PT5000 or a Miyota so that the dial feet fit.

 

[lexwill]

My AliExpress haul landed yesterday.
Couple of cheapo movements, some cases, a few sets of hands - the usual suspects. This time: a DG2813 (a.k.a. the clunker that just won’t die but I was able to ruin the seconds post (or pinion?)) , an NH35A, and a PT5000 - my favorite.
Now just waiting on the Raffles drop, because I’m completely out of dials (again ).



The 36mm case actually isn’t half bad. Drilled lugs look decently shaped (in my opinion), nothing too janky. Crystal’s acrylic with a cyclops, and the bezel … mmmh, not exactly Rolex quality, let’s leave it at that.





Tried fitting a Sternkreuz T22, but it’s a touch too wide. Close, but no click. Rehaut’s barely 1mm tall, so there’s pretty much nothing for a crystal to bite into. Might end up gluing it on like a savage. Love this hobby.



Still not sure what I’m gonna do with the MilSub case. Originally planned to throw in the Albino Commando dial with MilSub hands, but now I’m tempted to go full "gen" rep MilSubstyle instead. Got the hands ready, but of course the Raffles MilSub dial doesn’t fit the NH35. Naturally.

Also: Never used dial dots or dial feet glue before - and knowing my coordination, it’s either going to hold for life (6 at 12 position) … or it will turn in the watch like these roulette wheels.
I think I'll get a MilSub dial after all. And then maybe use a PT5000 or a Miyota so that the dial feet fit.

Can you post a link to that 36mm case?

 

[lg.visio]

It's this one:
I just found this on AliExpress:
24,59€ | 36mm Watch Case Easy to Use Practical Watch Accessories for NH36 Movement

https://a.aliexpress.com/_EvfRBvs

Not sure if it's really worth the try - on the other hand it's cheap. Height with acrylic is 13.3mm.
Caseback is big, maybe another caseback can be used. The part of the rehaut where the crystal sits is very tiny. And you have to find an other crystal. Diameter is 29,0 mm

Some more pics













And found this kind of silicone ring on the outside of the rehaut. Glue? No clue!