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ZZF V3 Submariners up on Jtime

Kayatsu1

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It’s the truth.

just as your local drug dealer can charge you a premium for his suppliers claimed ‘higher purity’ ratio coke, which In reality is no different to the rest you’ll find anywhere.

People will buy it regardless it was just a nice way to improve profits.

You want transparency from an illegal business when most legitimate business aren’t. I think it’s a silly expectation to have


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HeY StU BuT aRf DiDn’T LiE ‘bOuT tHis! EthICs! I will just get a true 904L ARF which insert will discolor in two months and movement break in three. I need an overpriced furniture for my room.

Joking aside. Please people here stop trolling. If ZZF lied bad for them but this doesn’t cancel that until now they were the best OOTB subs. What you paid is given by the enormous demand for them given the total incapacity that Noob and Arf had for years to produce a decent sub.
Now with more competition things will maybe change.
 

fredflintstone

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The fact that zzf have been caught using 316 can't really be compared to them robbing rolex design. They rip off rolex design, they all do. Rolex is the loser there, for us that's fine. But.....
Deceiving us is a different matter. We, the end user, afford a level of trust don't we. They say it has a 2836 or 3135 inside we accept that, we trust that that is what we bought. Its in their best interest to supply what they say they will supply. We know that there is trust in this game, we know its not like the media say, in that we are getting ripped of by the yakuza everytime we hand over our money. This trust we have is built into this thing we do. So when they say its a 904 3135 v54 we expect to get that version, if we don't we don't go back, they lose business and their enterprise ultimately suffers and fails. So I don't think that zzf have deceived us deliberately, leave that to volkswagon and the like. To me its more likely that zzf have been deceived by their supplier. I don't know how it happened, but I'm sad that it has. It has affected them though, they've lost my business I'm afraid. I'm a noob owner, I've always just bought noob when I could. I was about to buy a new subbie so I've been watching these threads closely. I want the best base for my franken build so the steel think is of interest to me you see. I was about to buy a v3 zzf, thats why I'm posting this here.
Anyway I didn't expect this to of gone on for so long LoL!,

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Elno38

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Guys... so far we have one research which Angus made public. The test was organized by ZF as he stated... I think there might be members out here which can test the steel independently. I don’t want to attack Angus nor puretime or anybody else, but when a factory comes up with a test, it is in their interest to push their sales and harm other factories... I don’t say anybody lies but so far we have one test which is not really independent in my eyes.
Why should a factory no matter which one it is, lie about there material?! I don’t think they are stupid and also they must be aware that somebody out here has the opportunity and the materials to check their steel... I wonder if nobody did this before?! And now, just as the SUB battle is really tough-comes a test which says some factories don’t use 904L ss...
Like I said before I don’t belong to any factory, TD or anything else in fact I ordered at many different TDs, but never a sub so far but I think this has to be seen a little more objective.
Just my two cents...
 

McPeace

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Guys... so far we have one research which Angus made public. The test was organized by ZF as he stated... I think there might be members out here which can test the steel independently. I don’t want to attack Angus nor puretime or anybody else, but when a factory comes up with a test, it is in their interest to push their sales and harm other factories... I don’t say anybody lies but so far we have one test which is not really independent in my eyes.
Why should a factory no matter which one it is, lie about there material?! I don’t think they are stupid and also they must be aware that somebody out here has the opportunity and the materials to check their steel... I wonder if nobody did this before?! And now, just as the SUB battle is really tough-comes a test which says some factories don’t use 904L ss...
Like I said before I don’t belong to any factory, TD or anything else in fact I ordered at many different TDs, but never a sub so far but I think this has to be seen a little more objective.
Just my two cents...

This is exactly how I feel about this... as can be seen in the other thread. Quite a few questionmarks here...
 
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saucin

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And didn’t Angus from Puretime hype the ZF sub - which wasn’t well received at all so far - and then comes up with a ZF sponsored „test“? Hmmm...

I‘d rather wait for something independent ...

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WenR

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After reading and reading and reading,,,
I just really curious about you mate foozoo58

you sound so angry and behave like you've been cheating so much money,,,
1 question : have you bought zzf watch? Or let me change the question, have you bought replica watch? Please post 1 pict to fill my curiousity
Thanks in advance mate
 

amica

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I've been eyeing the ZZF v3 as an upgrade from my Noob v10, but if they really used 316L , I guess I have to wait for ARF v4 then :( .
 

mariot

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ARF v3 vs ZZF v2

I do not see any difference. the metal looks identical

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GingerBubba

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After reading and reading and reading,,,
I just really curious about you mate foozoo58

you sound so angry and behave like you've been cheating so much money,,,
1 question : have you bought zzf watch? Or let me change the question, have you bought replica watch? Please post 1 pict to fill my curiousity
Thanks in advance mate

Don't encourage the troll!

Ignore him and hope the irritating twat goes away.
 

Kayatsu1

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+ 10000000000000

I was the first one under that thread to say that a comparison “sponsored” by a maker iself could be biased.
He said “you’re too young in the rep game, I just took advantage of it” etc without making any valid point.
People also told me that I don’t know the definition of bias.

I just hope they are reconsidering my statement now without firmly believing everything is said. We trust him but need other proof.
 
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WenR

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Don't encourage the troll!

Ignore him and hope the irritating twat goes away.

Nope, its not encourage, its a question that can he afford to buy rep watch or he can only afford to typing text,,,
 

Repmaster1337

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ZZF m2m sales inc I guess... hope jtime can talk to zzf for a statement.
 
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