ZF RM55, new super clone movement

[Cheesegrater]

I think the 055 clone movement tier list is as below

1) Clone using Gen Parmigiani/Vaucher movement parts
2) Chinese Clone Vaucher (lots of sellers are using these now as the prices have come down a lot)
3) ZF Clone
4) Any other Miyota based movements

They used Parmigiani parts because the RM055 movement uses the same parts that are all Supplied to Parmigiani and Richard Mille by Vaucher. Vaucher is a movement parts manufacturing company. Parmigiani was a good choice because their watches loses a lot of value and dealers could buy them at cheap prices and make them into clone RM movements.

so #1 is basically like a 20% gen franken watch.

 

[Cheesegrater]

I’d think the Chinese clone vaucher and ZF clone are similar?

 

[Rmmodlover]

I’d think the Chinese clone vaucher and ZF clone are similar?

Is not similar at all. The craftsmanship for Vaucher is definitely much more better , the barrel and also titanium stripes is completely shine different under the light. In the ZF the titanium stripes they just stick it unlike in Vaucher and that’s the reason why the price likely to be 10x more expensive for clone Vaucher

 

[5711]

Just place an order and paid for the White RM055 ceramic with PureTime. They said they need 2-3 weeks for QC pics?

I have bought from many other TDs and it took 2-3 days max.

 

[poseidon.]

Just place an order and paid for the White RM055 ceramic with PureTime. They said they need 2-3 weeks for QC pics?

I have bought from many other TDs and it took 2-3 days max.

It just released ofc its gonna take longer

 

[thrillofhunt]

I’d think the Chinese clone vaucher and ZF clone are similar?

Nope. The Chinese vaucher clone is much better and closer to the real vaucher and of course the Gen.

 

[Reaps]

Just place an order and paid for the White RM055 ceramic with PureTime. They said they need 2-3 weeks for QC pics?

I have bought from many other TDs and it took 2-3 days max.

Ok then cancel your order and place it with the other TDs. We have the power of choice. Let's see if the other TDs can do it faster.

 

[5711]

It just released ofc its gonna take longer

Just found out because there is a Chinese holiday from 1 Oct - 7 Oct called Golden Week. But that doesn’t explain why they take 2-3 weeks.

Ok then cancel your order and place it with the other TDs. We have the power of choice. Let's see if the other TDs can do it faster.

Exactly. PureTime seems to have too much business so they are slower compared to smaller TDs.

 

[Reaps]

Just found out because there is a Chinese holiday from 1 Oct - 7 Oct called Golden Week. But that doesn’t explain why they take 2-3 weeks.

Exactly. PureTime seems to have too much business so they are slower compared to smaller TDs.

Bro trying to estimate when dealers deliver is a crap shoot. Even most dealers are beholden to the factory to deliver the watch to them.

Dealers lose either way. They say 5 days for QC and don't deliver, people get mad and call them scammers. They say 3 weeks for QC and people say it's too long. What can they do?

Letting go of having hard deadlines for QC or watches makes the rep game easier.

I have used both non TD, TD, local seller and had timelines all over. Average is 10 days but longer or shorter is normal. Hot models like this RM055 probably will take longer since limited stock release for a first batch.

I had QC in 4 hours once for a VSF sub. I also waited 3 months for my Arabic Daydate.

 

[ObscureShape]

Just place an order and paid for the White RM055 ceramic with PureTime. They said they need 2-3 weeks for QC pics?

I have bought from many other TDs and it took 2-3 days max.

I ordered the ZF RM55 the day after it first released and my QC took just under 3 weeks, it was a long wait but well worth it. I ordered something else in stock and got QC in 3 days. The delay is probably part of a a pre-order/stocking phase.

 

[Cheesegrater]

This thread is already long enough without the bitching and whining of an impatient buyer. Can we keep it on topic about the watch itself?

 

[Prizon]

vaucher gen movement

Nope. The Chinese vaucher clone is much better and closer to the real vaucher and of course the Gen.

this

And the clone is actually more expensive vs the Gen Vaucher now! Crazy times

 

[Cheesegrater]

vaucher gen movement

this

And the clone is actually more expensive vs the Gen Vaucher now! Crazy times

What the.... that doesn't make sense.

 

[Reaps]

What the.... that doesn't make sense.

Guess that Vaucher's vertical and horizontal integration is much more efficient at creating complex movements like this, rather than a bunch of chinese dudes in workshop. Haha

 

[Prizon]

What the.... that doesn't make sense.

Haha exactly but it is true!

 

[Cheesegrater]

Haha exactly but it is true!

The black one you were selling for 10k what is that one?

 

[Prizon]

The black one you were selling for 10k what is that one?

v1 vaucher clone

 

[thrillofhunt]

Dealers have started to receive this watch. Looks good but as expected the movement finishing is not up to Vaucher or the clone vaucher standard but it shouldnt be, not that the current price point. Maybe in a few years we will see the vaucher clone become commonly used in reps.

 

[Rmmodlover]

Oef.... and they wanted $5k for just the case?
That's a big nope for me.

 

[Rmmodlover]

Yeah I'm feeling the same, might just go for it, whichever modder comes out offering movement refinishing is going to make $$$

Chazingtime is now selling the higher-end RM055 vaucher clones with CNC case for $9,888. The movement seems to be free sprung. The pictures on the website are not very detailed, so I can't tell how good the NTPT patter is. The 12 o'clock marker on the Yas Marina seems to be slightly off-center, but the other models look fine to my untrained eye. Would love to see a video of how the movement and NTPT case reflect light.

Glad a trusted dealer is posting the asking price online. Maybe AMF, TWM fill follow suit.

I have see those version is not even CNC case , the movement is just Shanghai Vaucher clone V1