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ZF RM55, new super clone movement

greenbeans

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Not sure if this has been posted yet, but how does the thickness of the ZF compare to gen?
 

drstrangeph

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RC Studio, The Watch Mansion, AMF should all be able to give you an idea about what customized options are available.
I think the one on the vid with gen vaucher free sprung movement, cnc case, cost 10k + from what I heard.. not sure if 10k is worth it. Would have to see ZF version soon first.
 

fletch512

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I think the one on the vid with gen vaucher free sprung movement, cnc case, cost 10k + from what I heard.. not sure if 10k is worth it. Would have to see ZF version soon first.
If you can find a gen vaucher with CNC case for $10k, let me know who your dealer is so I can place an order. TWM quoted me over $18k for an RM055 with rep vaucher (non free sprung) movement. TWM is on the expensive side of the quotes I've received for various builds, but it gives you a gauge of what dealers are charging people that can't or won't work directly with mainland China dealers.

I'm honestly getting confused about all the options out there and cost differences. Gen vaucher movement is obviously the best, but I thought the rep vaucher movement was also free sprung, just with a slightly different finish and polish. The bilibili video a page back looks like free sprung, but people are saying it's a clone. So is there a free sprung and a non-free sprung clone? Or are people really paying $18k for a non free sprung clone movement? Again, confusing.
 

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Let me lay it out.

Gen vaucher is still close to 20k movement alone.
Newest vaucher clone 12-14k . This new clone actually looks more “Gen “ vs the Gen vaucher above believe it or not. The pinions are correct

I would hold off from buying any custom CNC RM for the next 3-4 months. The rep game is moving fast and you are just throwing money
 

drstrangeph

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If you can find a gen vaucher with CNC case for $10k, let me know who your dealer is so I can place an order. TWM quoted me over $18k for an RM055 with rep vaucher (non free sprung) movement. TWM is on the expensive side of the quotes I've received for various builds, but it gives you a gauge of what dealers are charging people that can't or won't work directly with mainland China dealers.

I'm honestly getting confused about all the options out there and cost differences. Gen vaucher movement is obviously the best, but I thought the rep vaucher movement was also free sprung, just with a slightly different finish and polish. The bilibili video a page back looks like free sprung, but people are saying it's a clone. So is there a free sprung and a non-free sprung clone? Or are people really paying $18k for a non free sprung clone movement? Again, confusing.
I mean more than 10k or 10k + .. But yes a bit confusing.

If the rep vaucher clone is closer to gen than the gen vaucher, then better to go that way. Will save us a lot and looks better! I'll wait on ZF ceramic versions, might be closer to gen than these NTPTs.
 

Harolds

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Want to hear something crazy?

Contacted a person who is known on this forum and people buy from him.

He quoted me around $9k or $10k USD for just the RM 055 Case Alone.

And another $11k or $12k USD for the Clone Vaucher Movement that does not include the case.

I'm thinking are they smoking crack? They are really taking advantage of people

We will see that same case on one of the big factories soon
 

Harolds

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To touch on this again,

Let's just be honest as its common knowledge in Guangzhou you can go to the shops and find these CNC Cases for over a year now and they cost less than this but let's say put it high at $1k USD and if you're a foreign outsider let's say $2k USD but it is less than that. So these people who have a little bit of reputation here are charging x9 x10 if you put the value at $1k as they are getting that price not outsider price. It is really high way robbery they are marking it up at x9 minimum price for the case. The clone movement I'm not sure of, but the CNC Cases I know as they been doing it over a year, the only thing that happened in the last 6 months is the case materials got better quality but the prices are still as I said. So buyers are really just getting FLEECED if they pay $10k just for a case. I would advise not to buy it as one of the big factories will release it in due time, its just a matter of time before we see it. Its getting really close to that time anyways. These vendors selling it at x9 x10 are making major money, highway robbery.

That being said these new ZF are great considering the alternative for now. Its a no brainer just to go with the ZF for now and wait a few more months for the better case and movement updates.
 

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You cannot judge a member of this very community only because that you have received a quotation that does not meet with your expectations, you, however, need to understand that here are a number of individuals or entities here that those need to make profit. if you are not happy with that, you need to fuck off, or book a ticket and go to Guangzhou, or shut up and wait until what you expect becomes available from a TD.
 

Harolds

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You cannot judge a member of this very community only because that you have received a quotation that does not meet with your expectations, you, however, need to understand that here are a number of individuals or entities here that those need to make profit. if you are not happy with that, you need to fuck off, or book a ticket and go to Guangzhou, or shut up and wait until what you expect becomes available from a TD.
Seems the truth really hurt you a lot is it?

I've been to Guangdong numerous times in the last year my friend, I'm Asian after all :).

You seem to be involved with the vendor that I'm talking about, enjoy the rest of your day and night.

Soon you taking advantage of people will come to an end, in due time.
 

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let's say put it high at $1k USD and if you're a foreign outsider let's say $2k USD but it is less than that
Let’s see some of these what you say readily available 1k updated material cnc cases then. I’m real interested to see. Let’s say the white bubba 055 case.